[arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

Heiko Baums lists at baums-on-web.de
Fri Aug 10 15:43:33 EDT 2012


Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:27:33 +0200
schrieb Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no>:

> Please guys, not again...
> 
> Take your concerns upstream, nothing will come off rehashing them
> here for the hundredths time.

Those concerns have been reported upstream a long while ago. They are
just ignored resp. upstream doesn't have any better to do than to
blaming ALSA even if ALSA supports those audio cards perfectly
out-of-the-box.

Then PA upstream has written an obscure ALSA configuration which
crippled those cards down to simple stereo cards and closed the bug
report as fixed even if this is not even a dirty workaround.

Now, after a lot of discussions on several mailing lists, they suddenly
say that PA is only meant for desktop purposes, but not for
professional audio. On the other hand they do everything to make it a
pseudo standard.

And systemd seems to be similar. I also don't like that you want to
imprint this systemd stuff everybody even if one doesn't have systemd
installed. See systemd-tools and systemd-cryptsetup. Well, I know that
you filed the issue about reading the key rawly from a block device to
upstream. But they did forgot it. What else did they forget? I have the
impression that Lennart only thinks halfway through and doesn't have
much knowledge about professional computer and UNIX usage. Maybe his
ideas have some good aspects, but he simply can't implement it
professionally and in a UNIX style. He seems to only think about
desktop users but definitely not about (semi-)professional users.

And run a `ls /usr/lib/systemd/system`. The harddisk is filled up with
a bunch of systemd stuff which I don't need and don't want to have. But
I am forced to have at least half of systemd on my harddisk, even if I
don't want to have systemd.

Just a few concerns which not only belong to upstream.

And, no. The software does not or at least should not ripen at the
users, at least not so much as it needs to with Poetterix.

Heiko


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