[arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

[Brandon Watkins]

Systemd and pulseaudio are completely different pieces of software with
different purposes. Comparing them like that just because of the author is
comparing apples to oranges.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Heiko Baums <lists at baums-on-web.de> wrote:

> Am Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:27:33 +0200
> schrieb Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no>:
>
> > Please guys, not again...
> >
> > Take your concerns upstream, nothing will come off rehashing them
> > here for the hundredths time.
>
> Those concerns have been reported upstream a long while ago. They are
> just ignored resp. upstream doesn't have any better to do than to
> blaming ALSA even if ALSA supports those audio cards perfectly
> out-of-the-box.
>
> Then PA upstream has written an obscure ALSA configuration which
> crippled those cards down to simple stereo cards and closed the bug
> report as fixed even if this is not even a dirty workaround.
>
> Now, after a lot of discussions on several mailing lists, they suddenly
> say that PA is only meant for desktop purposes, but not for
> professional audio. On the other hand they do everything to make it a
> pseudo standard.
>
> And systemd seems to be similar. I also don't like that you want to
> imprint this systemd stuff everybody even if one doesn't have systemd
> installed. See systemd-tools and systemd-cryptsetup. Well, I know that
> you filed the issue about reading the key rawly from a block device to
> upstream. But they did forgot it. What else did they forget? I have the
> impression that Lennart only thinks halfway through and doesn't have
> much knowledge about professional computer and UNIX usage. Maybe his
> ideas have some good aspects, but he simply can't implement it
> professionally and in a UNIX style. He seems to only think about
> desktop users but definitely not about (semi-)professional users.
>
> And run a `ls /usr/lib/systemd/system`. The harddisk is filled up with
> a bunch of systemd stuff which I don't need and don't want to have. But
> I am forced to have at least half of systemd on my harddisk, even if I
> don't want to have systemd.
>
> Just a few concerns which not only belong to upstream.
>
> And, no. The software does not or at least should not ripen at the
> users, at least not so much as it needs to with Poetterix.
>
> Heiko
>