[arch-general] What can be deleted, when not using systemd - was: polkit package upgrade patch
Baho Utot
baho-utot at columbus.rr.com
Sat Aug 11 13:06:38 EDT 2012
On 08/11/2012 11:51 AM, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:30:09 +0200
> Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no> wrote:
>
>> This is a misrepresentation. Udev and systemd were merged I think
>> mainly because they "belong together", but also because they had
>> cyclic build dependencies as they are very tightly integrated. It is
>> not the case that systemd swallows anything it shares code with, in
>> fact some stuff is being pushed into util-linux away from systemd.
> I keep seeing this "quote" on the net, is it not accurate?
>
> "Sievers explained that it will still be possible to install udev
> independently of systemd. He added that this option will be supported
> in the long term because separate builds are required to ensure that
> initrds (initial ramdisks), which don't include systemd, work
> correctly. Distributions that don't use systemd can continue to build
> udev as before, but will have to use the systemd sources."
>
> ---
>
> Joakim
That is not entirely true.
Have a look at LFS.
Bruce Dubbs has broken udev out of the systemd-187. Which you can see
from here:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter06/udev.html
systemd-188 has been somewhat ugly.
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