[arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

[Brandon Watkins]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Jelle van der Waa <jelle at vdwaa.nl> wrote:

> On 08/09/12 22:00, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote:
> > I think what he was saying wasn't that systemd is hard but switching is
> hard irrespectively of what you're switching to.
> Because the devs made systemd being able to use rc.conf?
>
> It takes less then a day to use systemd, but I am not forcing you to use
> it.
>
> --
> Jelle van der Waa
>
> Yeah, I found systemd very easy to learn. The wiki page is great, and
after switching to it I prefer it because I just find it a lot easier to
deal with than sysvinit IMO. For example I find systemd's .service files so
much cleaner and easier to understand than initscripts, they are also
portable and can be included in upstream packages.

This "Oh my god systemd is hard and I'm being forced to use it!" FUD I keep
seeing is getting pretty ridiculous... Even if arch does someday switch to
systemd, I'm sure initscripts will be supported for quite some time, giving
plenty of time to learn/transition (again really not that hard) in the
event that that ever happened.

Arch has always been a bleeding edge constantly changing distro, if you
want everything to stay the same forever, use debian. No matter what
happens with this whole sysvinit vs systemd kerfuffle, you will never be
"forced" to use systemd in arch, just like you've never been forced to use
sysvinit...