[arch-general] SystemD poll

Paul Gideon Dann pdgiddie at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 05:52:32 EDT 2012


On Thursday 23 Aug 2012 21:47:14 Norbert Zeh wrote:
> I tried to keep my mouth shut but can't resist to reply here because I
> simply don't understand how you think the world works.  Do you want to see
> proof that every piece of open-source software is ready to be used?  That's
> ridiculous. Open-source software is being developed.  People think it may
> be interesting. They try it.  It doesn't work, they forget about it.  It
> does work, they use it. It does work, except for some issues here and
> there, people use it and provide bug reports in the hope the bugs will be
> fixed.  Even though I'm not a systemd fanboy and probably would have been
> equally happy continuing with init scripts for a while, my general
> impression is that systemd is in the latter category. It works for a large
> number of people (the majority?), it works flawlessly for me so far.  Yet,
> here you are raising doubts about systemd being ready to be used.  That
> puts *you* in a position to explain why you think there are serious reasons
> why systemd should not be adopted.  Your confusion stems from a
> misunderstanding of what the default is.  In law, the default assumption is
> that the accused is innocent and any claim to the contrary needs to be
> proven.  You seem to assume that the default assumption is that the
> software is broken, and it needs to be proven that it works.  In reality it
> works the other way around, and I think it's the only model that works
> because nobody would develop and distribute software *for free* if they
> also had to prove that it works.  Ironing out the glitches that still exist
> in certain pieces of software through early adoption, testing, and
> reporting of bugs upstream is exactly the role bleeding edge distributions
> such as arch play in the open-source ecosystem.
> 
> Then again, much of this has been said a bit differently before.  So I'm not
> sure you'll follow the argument.

Bravo!  This was well said.
Paul


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