[arch-general] Newbies in Arch [WAS: Suspend seems not to work with nVidia Nouveau driver]

[Jonathan Vasquez]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pham Bao Trung
<pham.bao.trung at gmail.com> wrote:
> @Jonathan Vasquez
>
> I must say that I totally support your point of view. I have seen some
> TU/devs/geeky users showed bad temper, mocking on newb at #archlinux who
> really came there to seek for help and wanted to switch to Arch. They just
> made them go away rudely. Their point is that Arch is not for newb.
>

It's sad it happens, but it happens in every community and I have to
accept that. Just because there are a few bad raisins or arrogant
people in the community, doesn't mean that I should just give up on
the entire distro. All I'm saying is that the people in the distro
definitely have an obligation to maintain the high standards of
conduct (Etiquette) and Morality. So we can all treat each other with
dignity and respect, as fellow human beings, volunteers, contributors,
maintainers, and users.

@Don Juan

Don't forget that Elitism for the most part automatically involves
arrogance. If a person is very smart, they will tend to learn towards
being arrogant. It's not because a person wants to be arrogant though,
but because naturally, as people gain knowledge, they logically
believe that they are smarter than other people in society in that
specific area. A very logical thought. The only thing is that we have
to control and be mindful of our arrogance and elitism when dealing
with each other and others, because other people (even if they aren't
pro), doesn't mean that they don't have anything useful or correct to
say.

Think of Doctors. Sometimes when you feel sick, you go online and you
try to do your due diligence. Trying to find out what is wrong with
you (Diagnosing yourself), even though you aren't a doctor. But you
try to do it anyways because searching for information, and finding a
solution tends to be something that us hackers have haha (How can we
be using a distro as great as Arch, and not be used to searching for
information and solutions? :] ). Once you find the information, you
feel pretty good about it. Of course since you know you aren't a
doctor, you clearly know that you might be wrong, and keep an open
mind about your current solution, until you go see the doctor. Once
you go see the doctor and try to explain to them your research and
theories, some of the doctors respond very negative towards you,
basically down playing your intelligence because you didn't go to
eight years of medical school. Just because a person didn't go to
medical school, doesn't mean that they can research and learn anything
in the field of medicine. That logic is ridiculous, and as we have and
will experience in our lives, applies towards other areas of life.

Those are my worthless cents as well I suppose :).


-- 
Jonathan Vasquez