[arch-general] Newbies in Arch [WAS: Suspend seems not to work with nVidia Nouveau driver]

[Don Juan]

On 01/04/2012 05:52 AM, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
>> Think of Doctors. Sometimes when you feel sick, you go online and you
>> try to do your due diligence. Trying to find out what is wrong with
>> you (Diagnosing yourself), even though you aren't a doctor. But you
>> try to do it anyways because searching for information, and finding a
>> solution tends to be something that us hackers have haha (How can we
>> be using a distro as great as Arch, and not be used to searching for
>> information and solutions? :] ). Once you find the information, you
>> feel pretty good about it. Of course since you know you aren't a
>> doctor, you clearly know that you might be wrong, and keep an open
>> mind about your current solution, until you go see the doctor. Once
>> you go see the doctor and try to explain to them your research and
>> theories, some of the doctors respond very negative towards you,
>> basically down playing your intelligence because you didn't go to
>> eight years of medical school. Just because a person didn't go to
>> medical school, doesn't mean that they can research and learn anything
>> in the field of medicine. That logic is ridiculous, and as we have and
>> will experience in our lives, applies towards other areas of life.
>>
>> Those are my worthless cents as well I suppose :).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Vasquez
> +1
>
> I can somewhat relate to this situation since I am a med student and I
> use linux (currently arch and gentoo). When first installed linux I
> was an absolute computer/internet illiterate; today my knowledge is
> better, though obviously limited. I admit that in the past I may have
> asked really dumb question, but from my point of view, experienced
> linux users often forget how difficult is to enter into a field about
> which you know absolutely nothing. Yes, there are howtos,
> documentation, man pages... but at the very beginning, it's not that
> easy.
>
> Ignorance should never be an excuse for a rude response, at least when
> ignorance isn't accompanied by the obvious willingness to remain
> ignorant. Knowledge doesn't imply nor require arrogance or rudeness.
> If not, every person that is knowledgeable in a field could mistreat
> everyone else who is not as equally competent in that particular area.
> I wonder what these unpolite linux gurus would think if one day I'd
> answered them something like "Are you kidding me? Seriously, you are
> asking me if your contact lenses can *get lost behind your eyeball*?
> If you had RTMF you'd know this is impossible. Now GTFO, and next time
> *google it*, for the love of God... noob."
>
> Just the thoughts of a computer ignorant.
>
> Lorenzo
>
+1

I would love to go to a doctor that is like that, I think more should be 
like house LOL