[arch-general] Pacman v4.0.1-4 could be less verbose

Ralf Madorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Wed Jan 25 18:19:01 EST 2012


On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 00:16 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 00:02 +0100, Stefan Wilkens wrote:
> > 2012/1/25 Ralf Madorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>:
> > > Hi :)
> > >
> > > I wonder if warnings like
> > >
> > > # pacman -Syu
> > > warning: qtractor: local (0.5.3.15-2684) is newer than community
> > > (0.5.3-1)
> > > warning: rtirq: local (20111007-1) is newer than archaudio-preview
> > > (20090920-1)
> > >
> > > are useful? Once there will be more packages, it will become
> > > uncomfortable to read more important output.
> > >
> > > 2 Cents,
> > >
> > > Ralf
> > >
> > 
> > This is a pretty significant warning though, that -Syu might lead to a
> > library upgrade that breaks the apparently newer than in repo version
> > of your application or other unwanted situations. Something is
> > non-standard, pacman is warning you of this.
> > 
> > Having said that, I'd like to add that cherry-picking updates is
> > generally a bad idea. You should stick to repository updates unless
> > you have a very good reason to cherry pick.
> 
> 
> rtirq is outdated and doesn't work with the AUR's kernel-rt, it's from
> the archstudio repo that is optimized for Intel Core {i3,i5,i7} CPU, not
> important for this script, but regarding to other software I guess my
> Athlon dual-core shouldn't use this repo
> 
> Sometimes I'm a Qtractor svn tester and at the moment I do the German
> translation for Qtractor from svn, so I build it from svn.
> 
> For audio there could be many reasons to build current versions, a while
> ago I had to build ALSA to get my RME PCIe card work, I had to build
> Jack2, to get less MIDI jitter etc..
> 
> So for me there are very good reasons. I suspect that upgrades will
                                                                ^^^^    
                                                                won't

> break a newer software version than that from the repositories very
> often ;), usually older libs tend to cause issues.
> 
> IMO this output doesn't make much sense.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ralf



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