[arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?
Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Tue Jul 10 04:51:13 EDT 2012
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 19:54 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
> Am 09.07.2012 18:44, schrieb Tom Gundersen:
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:21 PM, David C. Rankin
> > <drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 07/09/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel Wallace wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Because Archlinuxarm is unsupported by Archlinux. it is a seperate
> >>> project. The same reason archbang, chakra, bridgelinux, and
> >>> archlinux-ppc are seperate as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> Grrrr. Thanks Daniel,
> >>
> >> That's what was confusing -- ARM certainly looks official flying the Arch
> >> Linux trademarked logo, etc....
> >>
> >> So I guess anyone can create any forum and fly the Arch logo? Sounds like
> >> a "cease and desist" letter would fix that problem.
> >
> > Notice that some use of our trademark by derivatives is allowed[0].
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tom
> > (who recently started using ArchLinux ARM and is a big fan)
> >
> > [0]:
> > <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#Permitted_Use>
>
> Judging from a brief read of that paragraph I would even conclude that
> they cannot really use our name and trademark directly as they changed
> too much. :-)
>
> They chose to be completely independent from us which has up- and
> downsides. And as lots of other derivatives thy implemented their own
> tools and infrastructure.
>
> It'll be interesting what could happen in the future. E.g. there was
> once an independent port of Arch called Arch64 which was merged into
> Arch itself some day and we started to officially support x86_64. I
> don't see such things happen any time soon if at all. But if we indeed
> see capable hardware at some point and we developers start using the arm
> port such things might happen naturally. That being said, I am happy
> that people are already working on such a port.
>
> Back to topic: I see how users might get confused by naming and logos.
> The same happens with archlinuxppc.org. But I'd rather not have a strict
> policy about trademark use and enforcing it (see how the Debian/Mozilla
> -> Iceweasel/Firefox issue did any good). Maybe we can encourage the arm
> people to work more closely with us though.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Pierre
The logo is including typography and so it differs exactly as wanted by
the policy
http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/styles/simplecorp/imageset/ALARM-2.png
a more famous example for "typography" can be a "logo"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Cocacola_cyrilic.JPG/170px-Cocacola_cyrilic.JPG
http://www.archlinux.org/art/ >
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy
- Ralf
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