[arch-general] Still Glibc problems

Norbert Zeh nzeh at cs.dal.ca
Fri Jul 20 14:27:41 EDT 2012

D. R. Evans [2012.07.20 0827 -0600]:
> Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM :
> > 
> > Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc
> > upgrade was not an issue yet.  Combining the two instructions, I would guess the
> > following should work:
> > 
> > pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem --ignore glibc
> > pacman -S --force filesystem --ignore glibc
> > pacman -Sd <everything you couldn't upgrade due to ignored glibc>
> Incidentally, this is quite a long list.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib seems to suggest
> that the list will contain only a few items, but the actual number is of the
> order a couple of dozen packages.
> > pacman -Su
> > 
> > Note that I did not try this, but it seems to be the logical combination of the
> > two.  Maybe one of the developers can chime in and confirm that this is the
> > right strategy.
> I am rather reticent to try something untested, especially when I see the
> --force option in use. So yes, PLEASE, can a developer address this issue so
> that I can have more confidence that I won't end up with a hosed system.
> (I am very puzzled as to why this is happening at all. This is not a system to
> which anything fancy has ever been done. If I'm having this problem, I don't
> know why lots of others aren't seeing it too.)

I got a fairly long list of packages I had to ignore in the first run, too, and
I had a few unowned files in /lib I had to clean out.  It all worked very well
following the instructions on the wiki, though.  So no complaints at all.  I
think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems
you haven't updated your system in a long time.  So now you're running into
dealing with two slightly tricky upgrades (filesystem + glibc) at the same time.
I upgrade packages very frequently.  So I dealt with the filesystem upgrade a
few weeks ago, and all went smoothly.  Having an up-to-date filesystem package,
the upgrade of glibc was also fairly straightforward, even if it involved quite
a bit of manual intervention.

I think the lesson to be learned here is that not upgrading packages on an arch
box for a long time is not the best idea, and I think most arch users do upgrade
quite frequently.


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