[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Nicholas MIller nick.kyky at gmail.com
Sun Jul 22 16:30:00 EDT 2012

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons at linuxaudio.org>wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 02:52:49PM -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > I wonder why everyone thinks that Archlinux is about a single config
> file...
> > It is the same myth as "Arch is faster than distro XYZ" or the "simple
> > init".
> A single config file or a few of them won't matter. As long as you can
> stay in control without having to waste time bypassing or removing things
> that you don't need but that are pulled in as dependencies of something
> you do need.
> Simple example: I didn't have consolekit for some years, and I don't
> care about whatever it has to offer. Recent updates of xdm have pulled
> it in. So far it hasn't done anything evil except being useless and
> consuming system resources (50 or so threads). Same about polkit, it's
> pulled in only as a depency of gconf which in turn is only there because
> the Emacs package wants it. How much more of this useless stuff is going
> to be added without any way to opt out in the future ? I can perfectly
> understand that those things could be useful on a typical bloated consumer
> desktop. But they shouldn't be required unless you install such a thing.
> Systemd is similar, whatever it has to offer (e.g. on-demand running of
> services) I prefer to do without, just because that is simpler and without
> any doubt more secure.
> This seems to be the single greatest reason against changing how things
are done

> > Arch is about hackability and upstream compliance. AFAICT this is not
> going
> > away. Besides, archlinux users should be experienced enough to manage 5
> config
> > files instead of 1. So if there is a single technical argument to use
> systemd
> > syntax standard, it should overweigh 10 aesthetic predespositions.
> So far I have not seen any really technical arguments, whatever has
> been presented as such is as questionable as any 'aesthetic' ones.
> Ciao,
> --
> FA
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