[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Leonid Isaev lisaev at umail.iu.edu
Mon Jul 23 12:16:11 EDT 2012

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:57:46 +0200
Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > Systemd is
> > larger than init, so for embedded it may well quadruple boot time.
> What utter bullshit. Please, Kevin, if you are going to throw around
> numbers, do some measurements first.
> systemd is so far even more successful in embedded environments than
> in desktop ones (i.e. embedded people seem to be more eager to ship
> it), I doubt that would be the case if it is four times slower to
> boot. I'm currently using it on my raspberry pi, without any problems.
> I have not done any performance measurements, but there are very good
> reasons why initscripts are expected to be slower than systemd (on the
> same setup) and it has nothing to do with bash versus C, or the size
> of the binaries.

To add, in general sysVinit does not see much use in modern embedded systems.
For instance, (open)webOS (and probably android) has gone the upstart way. So
far, only network appliances use sysVinit, but these are pretty conservative,
e.g. many are still on 2.4 kernels (stock cisco, tomato, dd-wrt, etc).

> > Is debian switching
> That remains to be seen. There are certainly lots of debian people
> involved with systemd upstream, and there are people working on
> systemd integration in debian.
> -t

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