[arch-general] Arch's move to systemd integration

Antoine Jardin antoine.jardin at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 15:21:57 EDT 2012

Hi all,

I've used Arch for the last 4 years and I'm increasingly comfortable using it
On the switch to systemd, people interested in the topic should give a
look at the Fosdem presentation about the project a year ago ;)

systemd, beyond init



2012/7/23 Myra Nelson <myra.nelson at hughes.net>:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Paul Gideon Dann <pdgiddie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday 22 Jul 2012 15:14:13 Myra Nelson wrote:
>>> My comparison to file size was meant to be extended to the complete
>>> removal of rc.d and conf.d or the removal of several files in those
>>> directories. Maybe that concept is not that important. I didn't mean
>>> to imply the KISS principle was about size, just trying to imply this
>>> change doesn't necessarily violate that principle.
>> When I read about file sizes, my immediate thought was that it's being used as
>> a metric for simplicity of configuration.  Did noone else think this?  If the
>> configuration file sizes are small, this might indicate that it won't be a
>> nightmare to configure.
>>> My main argument
>>> was "If I can get this done anyone can. It's not that much different,
>>> it's just different". It appears to me to be just as portable as the
>>> current setup and it might just save the Devs some time, and provide
>>> better integration with upstream devs. Another salient point is just
>>> because it's been done that way since Moses was a baby doesn't make it
>>> right. Sorry if I offend anyone.
>> Thank you for sharing this Myra; I think this is a helpful argument.  The
>> lesson seems to be: systemd is not difficult to use; it's just new, shiny, and
>> different.  Don't be scared of it.
>> As for me, I haven't made the switch yet mainly because I haven't had the time
>> to look into it properly.
>> Paul
> Paul:
> A voice of reason in the darkness. The size comparisons were a silly
> comparison to such BS in another thread about systemd. You seem to be
> the only one who picked up on the central point of my argument. If a
> half brain dead old woman can do this with minimal problems the
> younger generation shouldn't have any problem with it.
> Thank you very much.
> Myra
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