[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Stephen E. Baker baker.stephen.e at gmail.com
Tue Jul 24 11:53:49 EDT 2012


On 24/07/2012 11:08 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:07:50 +0200
> Heiko Baums <lists at baums-on-web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:40:51 +1000
>> schrieb Gaetan Bisson <bisson at archlinux.org>:
>>
>> Yes, I don't like those Windoze like ini files of systemd, too.
> One thing I noticed is that the only people who usually bash Windows are those
> who don't develop or know very little about programming. What exactly is wrong
> with ini files and/or registry? Perhaps it is your misunderstanding...
I assure you, lots of developers, even (or maybe especially) Windows 
developers bash windows.  The key is not throwing the baby out with the 
bath water.

Ini style files are both easy to parse and easy to read - there's no 
reason not to copy the format.

Certainly these systemd target files etc. are easier to read and manage 
than the initscripts were.

It may take some getting use to not being able to see everything in 
DAEMONS, but the benefits to the maintainers and to me if I ever need to 
tweak something beyond what gets run in what order, more than offset that.
> Over time various linux projects took a lot from windows: gconf/dconf
> (~registry), KDE4 indexing services (~superfetch/desktop indexing),
> systemd-journald (~windows event viewer). This is real, get used to it.
>

The registry is more debatable.  (Having all your config in one place is 
nice, but when that one place is an inconsistent mess that can only be 
managed by a mediocre special purpose tool it loses it's benefits.)  I 
think I would be very upset if they wanted to move rc.conf into a gconf 
like interface.  As is though I find it hard to complain.

I generally like Windows events except for some of the pointless make 
work of registering each message ahead of time in your message.dll 
(which .NET hacks around).  That said I've never had any issue with 
/var/log/*.


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