[arch-general] Campaign against Secure Boot

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Mon Jun 25 14:31:32 EDT 2012

On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 20:26 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 06/25/2012 07:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 19:24 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> >> Am 25.06.2012 18:37, schrieb Kevin Chadwick:
> >>>>> If I understand it right, in Setup Mode, you can either boot any
> >>>>> non-signed operating system, or you can import your own keys into the
> >>>>> firmware, so that you can sign your own bootloaders. For me, this is
> >>>>> enough to not care about Secure Boot.
> >>>>>    
> >>> I didn't know key replacement was a requirement for MS certification.
> >>> That's better than I thought, however.
> >>>
> >>> You can only have one key and so it's a barrier to competition via
> >>> preventing trying out other OS's on a whim!!. To multiboot you have to
> >>> pay and spend a lot of time. Having authorisation to disable it
> >>> completely but not import multiple keys simply doesn't make sense.
> >> I don't think so. I need to verify this, but if I remember right, you
> >> can simply sign Microsoft's key so Windows 8 is also trusted by your own
> >> key.
> > Pff, I need to build my own kernels, to optimize to my needs and*I won't
> > care about a boot-boot-loader or any singing.*  Ok, I don't have any
> > Windows installed (*excepted of XP on Arch on VBox*) and I won't install
> > Windoof 8. Try an educated guess! In Europe M$ does violate laws, but M$
> > simply pays the punishment by pocket money/stamp coffer ... dunno how
> > the idiom is called in English, but I suspect you understand.
> >
> > However, isn't is suspect that the name "Microsoft" always comes along
> > with UEFI?!
> >
> > I don't have tendencies to believe in conspiracy theories! I simply
> > don't trust this situation any longer. Again, at first I didn't care,
> > now I'm completely against it.
> >
> I am following this thread, and honestly, who needs to dual boot today? 
> I do not see anmore the need of it, as LVM is matured enough to avoid 
> anyway the pain of rebooting to run winoz, no?
> We all know Apfle and Winoz are not playing the game and try to close 
> everything, no?
> Just my 2 cents in this vibrant debate.

Yep, no issue for me, my mobos will be based on Intel or AMD. Do you use
other hardware? Than perhaps you'll be screwed in the near future. Good

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