[arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

Curtis Shimamoto sugar.and.scruffy at gmail.com
Tue Feb 11 11:27:15 EST 2014

On 02/11/14 at 10:11am, Bigby James wrote:
> On Mon Feb 10 12:20:45 EST 2014 Kyle wrote:
> > I'll take a little frustration of non-linux using normal
> > human beings over a captcha that completely excludes visually impaired
> > normal human beings any day.
> I can understand your concern and applaud your consideration, but which of those
> two groups do you suppose would flood the forums if the barrier to entry were
> lowered? Let's be frank: The number of visually impaired users is, always has
> been and always will be outstripped by the number of help vampires. If a
> visually impaired Arch user needs help with a complex setup, that user can still
> consult the wiki and mailing list without the same barrier present on the
> forums, as anyone who's used all three can attest. I don't know what solutions
> (if any) exist for IRC users who are visually impaired, but that's a third
> option. 
> Really, what you're talking about here is letting in an unwanted majority to
> avoid upsetting an otherwise acceptable, but extremely miniscule minority.
> There's no simple solution to such a conundrum, but there are multiple avenues
> of communication in the Arch community. There just seems to be something about
> online BBS that attracts the intellectually lazy in a manner that other online
> communication media do not.

I think you've missed what Kyle is saying here.  From what I understand
(as a non-blind user), traditional captchas that are super hard to read
and easily deciphered by computers are what tend to not be usable by the
visually impaired. 

The captcha that we currently have should be great for the visually
impaired using some of the available linux tools such as espeakup.

Curtis Shimamoto
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