[arch-general] inetutils and the 'base' group

[Leonid Isaev]

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 08:31:42PM -0400, Daniel Micay wrote:
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:31:42 -0400
> From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay at gmail.com>
> To: arch-general at archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] inetutils and the 'base' group
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> On 16/06/14 07:35 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 	Is there a reason why core/inetutils is in base group, i.e. which
> > packages implicitly rely on it? It was added to base around Aug. 2011 ago, I
> > think because of hostname(1), but shouldn't this functionality be now provided
> > by hostnamectl?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> It's likely just in base because it was viewed as convenient. You can
> temporarily change the hostname with `sysctl kernel.hostname=foo` alone
> anyway.

Yes, but the hostname binary may be queried by scripts, like startx.

> 
> AFAIK it's a bug if there's an implicit dependency on base, although
> it's not clear if an implicit make dependency on base is allowed as it
> is for base-devel. 

I thinks so, and this seems convenient. Otherwise everything should depend on
glibc, for example. This implicit behavior is the reason why base should be
small. Hence my question...

Sincerely, 
-- 
Leonid Isaev
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