[arch-general] Add wpa_supplicant to the Group 'Base'

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com
Sat Apr 25 22:24:44 UTC 2015

On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:55:32 +0200, Neven Sajko wrote:
>On 25 April 2015 at 19:36, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 17:51:10 +0200, Neven Sajko wrote:
>>> nano
>> IMO nano should be part of base. Other editors might have advantages
>> over nano, but to set up config files, it's on of the most easiest to
>> use editors. It's my default editor, because you don't get a
>> tendonitis and you don't need to learn billions of shortcuts and a
>> strange language to configure the editor, IOW it's not like Emacs
>> and it's also not like the two modes Vi/m, "beep repeatedly" and
>> "break everything". Sure, for coders those editors have their
>> advantages, but to set up an install nano is a good choice, because
>> it can be used by everybody. Perhaps by default an improved nanorc
>> should be provided.
>I didn't use nano much but I'm pretty sure you could edit text faster
>in MS Word,
>so I cannot imagine any scenario in which it should be used.
>If you don't know how to use anything better you should probably learn

Mentioning a Windows office suite is polemic. Even a lot of us *nix
users nowadays are using GUI editors, Sublime text, Pluma, Atom editor,
Gvim etc. for tasks an editor usually is used for, unlikely for
editing office work. For some tasks a GUI isn't an option, usually for
editing simple config files something as Nano can be used by nearly
everybody. Most of us for sure are aware how to use Vi too. I prefer to
get Nano when e.g. running visudo, but sure, I'm able to use Vi/m too.

I'm not an editor war guy. There's nothing wrong with Emacs and Vi/m,
but there's also nothing wrong with easy to use, self explaining
editors such as Nano, mcedit etc., even while Vi is a standard.

Why not providing an easy to use self explaining editor such as Nano?
You don't benefit from a "better" editor for this task. Why should
people learn how to use oldish editors, they never need for simple
tasks, when we nowadays have much easier, self-explaining editors,
such as nano?

Do you seriously consider
$ pacman -Qi nano | grep Size
Installed Size :   2.05 MiB
in base as an issue? 2.05 MiB that make live for many users much easier.


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