[arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 123, Issue 4

Sat May 9 09:04:58 UTC 2015

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On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Wayne Song <geekwsong at gmail.com> wrote:

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> >    1. list of user/group ids supplied by official packages
> >       (member graysky)
> >    2. Re: makepkg as root (Ralf Mardorf)
> >    3. Re: makepkg as root (member graysky)
> >    4. Re: list of user/group ids supplied by official   packages
> >       (Troy Engel)
> >    5. Re: list of user/group ids supplied by official   packages
> >       (Troy Engel)
> >    6. Re: list of user/group ids supplied by official   packages
> >       (member graysky)
> >    7. Re: list of user/group ids supplied by official   packages
> >       (Troy Engel)
> >    8. Re: makepkg as root (Eli Schwartz)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 07:50:49 -0500
> > From: member graysky <graysky at archlinux.us>
> > To: arch-general at archlinux.org
> > Subject: [arch-general] list of user/group ids supplied by official
> >         packages
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAO_nJAboyXF5dhJbvE27F95dC5oqqaWRQy2bhet_iNNmwsv4oQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Is there a list of user/group IDs that official packages from [core]
> > [extra] and [community] provide?  I wish to insure that the user/group
> > id in an AUR package I provide[1] does not conflict a user created by
> > an official package.  I can grep for 'useradd' in my abs tree and
> > parse through the resulting 137 lines but there must be a better way.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 1. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kodi-standalone-service
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 14:09:19 +0100
> > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
> > To: arch-general at archlinux.org
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] makepkg as root
> > Message-ID: <20150102140919.001b7b0e at archlinux>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > I am/was an '--asroot' user too. Does a feaure request makes sense?
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 08:12:51 -0500
> > From: member graysky <graysky at archlinux.us>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] makepkg as root
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO_nJAY7Y2hiwgKT=6QdH=
> > o3dx4X_V0H0sY0-CtavNyn4cACOQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Don't think you'll get it added back officially. See the discussion in
> > Allan's blog: http://allanmcrae.com/2014/12/pacman-4-2-released/
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> > <ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am/was an '--asroot' user too. Does a feaure request makes sense?
> > >
> > > Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 08:48:17 -0600
> > From: Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] list of user/group ids supplied by
> >         official        packages
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAO7q0mnLYfMkYf63hjZrUbADjHj14+PEuD0KNU3avGh6zJNUZQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:50 AM, member graysky <graysky at archlinux.us>
> > wrote:
> > > Is there a list of user/group IDs that official packages from [core]
> > > [extra] and [community] provide?  I wish to insure that the user/group
> > > id in an AUR package I provide[1] does not conflict a user created by
> > > an official package.  I can grep for 'useradd' in my abs tree and
> > > parse through the resulting 137 lines but there must be a better way.
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > There's a wiki-based effort to track them here:
> >
> >   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database
> >
> > A valiant initiative, I'll survey my system(s) and see if I can
> > contribute anything...
> >
> > -te
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 08:57:01 -0600
> > From: Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] list of user/group ids supplied by
> >         official        packages
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO7q0m=
> > QxsO-wBtDxjpkUD6nbF+r7VK2+a3H1ovJf_DTOo1PLw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database
> >
> > ...and the first one I came across wasn't listed (git), I looked at
> > it's .INSTALL file and see it's dynamic:
> >
> > ====
> > post_install() {
> >   if ! getent group git >/dev/null; then
> >     groupadd --system git
> >   fi
> >   if ! getent passwd git >/dev/null; then
> >     useradd --system -c 'git daemon user' -g git -d / -s /bin/bash git
> >   fi
> > }
> > ====
> >
> > So there are core/extra/community packages using the system dynamic
> > method which is probably what you should do as well, since everyone's
> > 'git' UID/GID are most likely different. :( Makes it hard if you need
> > to align across a cluster/shared filesystem, though.
> >
> > -te
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 10:00:29 -0500
> > From: member graysky <graysky at archlinux.us>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] list of user/group ids supplied by
> >         official        packages
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO_nJAY6xsCDqYnLJt2oSwtcvTAKDxeBycqP-=
> > cB+PM3e-E+wg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Thanks for that link and for the info on dynamic UID's.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database
> > >
> > > ...and the first one I came across wasn't listed (git), I looked at
> > > it's .INSTALL file and see it's dynamic:
> > >
> > > ====
> > > post_install() {
> > >   if ! getent group git >/dev/null; then
> > >     groupadd --system git
> > >   fi
> > >   if ! getent passwd git >/dev/null; then
> > >     useradd --system -c 'git daemon user' -g git -d / -s /bin/bash git
> > >   fi
> > > }
> > > ====
> > >
> > > So there are core/extra/community packages using the system dynamic
> > > method which is probably what you should do as well, since everyone's
> > > 'git' UID/GID are most likely different. :( Makes it hard if you need
> > > to align across a cluster/shared filesystem, though.
> > >
> > > -te
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 09:14:07 -0600
> > From: Troy Engel <troyengel+arch at gmail.com>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] list of user/group ids supplied by
> >         official        packages
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO7q0m=wvB7E=Kmo=ZTu92CsYUfonNm=
> > Hncu7+4Afq5qSnPH9A at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:00 AM, member graysky <graysky at archlinux.us>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for that link and for the info on dynamic UID's.
> >
> > You're welcome - and I think you've helped uncover a small bug (well,
> > enhancement) - I found two new systemd* users with suspiciously high
> > UIDs:
> >
> >   systemd-journal-remote:x:998:998:systemd Journal Remote:/:/sbin/nologin
> >   systemd-journal-upload:x:997:997:systemd Journal Upload:/:/sbin/nologin
> >
> > I'm pretty sure since package 'filesystem' isn't creating them (just
> > checked) that systemd is creating them dynamically at runtime,
> > searching through code now to prepare a bug report...
> >
> > -te
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 13:35:52 -0500
> > From: Eli Schwartz <eschwartz93 at gmail.com>
> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] makepkg as root
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAAp_6BtPWs+0YZvig+bhcpUsMf+HUshbrXWbH=
> > QNu93zcK8V6w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > '--asroot' was removed with deliberation and forethought.
> >
> > If anyone can think of a compelling reason the developers have not
> thought
> > of, perhaps you will have luck convincing them. Random feature requests
> > saying you want it probably don't qualify... at least explain why you are
> > not able to simply run 'makepkg' in another user account.
> >
> > I do have to wonder, though, why... one is running as root by default???
> > Why else would '--asroot' be needed?
> >
> > -- Eli Schwartz
> >
> >
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