[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

[kendell clark]

On 09/26/2015 08:26 AM, Christoph Gysin wrote:
> Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will
> be routed through pulseaudio.
> 
> I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it.
> Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into
> another plugin?
> 
> What is preventing speakup from using pulseaudio?
> 
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> No, I don't have pulseaudio installed. I actually can't use it because it
>> will not allow me to use speakup in the console.  Interestingly enough, I
>> read something that said moc doesn't have support for pulseaudio. So, I must
>> have found outdated info.
>> Still, I wonder if we are missing a plugin in alsa itself?
>> thanks
>> Storm
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 03:09:38PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you using pulseaudio? This works out of the box for me with
>>> pulseaudio. moc controls the volume of whatever was the default sink
>>> when it was started.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Storm Dragon
>>> <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading through the docs, and
>>>> things
>>>> on the net, I found a way to set up a softvol control for it in alsa, so
>>>> when I adjust its volume, it only changes the volume for moc. Everything
>>>> went well, except, I can't adjust the volume from within the moc app,
>>>> which
>>>> should be possible because you can set the alsa device and mixer in the
>>>> ~/.moc/config file.
>>>> It is using the right device, and amixer sset Mocmaster 50% sets the
>>>> volume.
>>>> It's just the in program controls that fail. When moc starts, it gives
>>>> this
>>>> error:
>>>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library
>>>> /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_softvol.so
>>>> This makes me think that either a plugin is missing from alsa-plugins, or
>>>> maybe moc is using an outdated way to change its volume. However, if the
>>>> alsa controls are set to their defaults, the volume works fine, but it
>>>> lowers the volume on the whole system.
>>>> I did a pacman search for alsa softvol but it didn't return anything. Is
>>>> there anything I can install to fix this?
>>>> Thanks for any help
>>>> Storm
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> 
hi
Speakup and pulse audio don't get along primarily because speakup is
built into the kernel as a module, meaning any speech synthesizers taht
talk to it have to be ran as root. If speakup is started before
pulseaudio starts, you'll get a situation where you get speech in the
desktop but not speech outside it. I'm not completely sure what the
cause is, but if you start espeakup, which is the espeak connector to
speakup after your desktop or pulse audio is started, it works, although
it's a little laggy. This sounds like a probme either for the speakup or
the pulseaudio people, but both deny responsibility for the problem,
urging me to bug the other, so nothing gets done. The only real
solution, if it can be called that, is to use speech-dispatcher with
speakup through a program called speechdup. But this program is long
abandoned and only works even half way in vinux, which is based off of
ubuntu.
Thanks
Kendell clark