[arch-general] bitcoin-qt out-of-date

[Diego Viola]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general
> <arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote:
>> On 09/01/2016 06:00 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
>>> No, I'm not saying that, please let's not make this personal, it's not.
>>>
>>> I'm also OK compiling my own bitcoin-qt or whatever, I'm just
>>> concerned there are many outdated packages as of late, and what makes
>>> Arch so special to many people is the rolling release part and up to
>>> date packages.
>>
>> I am not trying to make this personal. :)
>> It just sounds like you are unhappy with the way the TUs are handling
>> things, and I am trying to highlight the fact that they are doing the
>> best they can.
>>
>> What makes Arch so special, is not just the up-to-date packages, but the
>> do-it-yourself mindset and the existence of the AUR. It is the fact that
>> Arch users know how their system works, and usually know how to build
>> their own packages as and when needed, to enhance their system beyond
>> what the main repositories contain. As a result, we have the power to
>> run experimental (*-git) versions of stuff, to update before the distro
>> maintainers do, etc.
>> And, there will always be out-of-date packages.
>>
>> But, there are ~15K packages in the repos, and 745
>> currently-flagged-out-of-date ones.
>> (That includes things in testing, and duplicated i686/x86_64
>> arch-dependent packages... so the actual numbers will be different but
>> the proportions should be similar and thus the point is the same.)
>>
>> Most packages in Arch are up to date. And the TUs work hard to keep
>> things that way. And even though they sometimes fail, we are still more
>> up to date than most other distros. We may sometimes be less special,
>> but even then we are still pretty darn special. :)
>> Being concerned that the system is slacking as a whole is probably not
>> going to be an accurate assumption. The sky is not falling.
>>
>> And if it were... that only means Arch users are less interested these
>> days in becoming TUs and helping to spread the load and keep things
>> running smoothly. In which case, maybe "we" don't deserve to have Arch
>> provided for our use anymore.
>> Not that I think that is happening!
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The solution, in all cases, remains the same. Pitch in to help, acquire
>> familiarity with the way Arch works, contribute your own AUR packages to
>> learn the ropes, and then try to get someone to sponsor you to become a
>> TU. (Or, whichever steps are applicable to each person's case.)
>>
>> Arch helps those who help themselves.
>>
>> --
>> Eli Schwartz
>
> I'm not unhappy with Arch, it is by far my favorite distribution. I'm
> simply worried we're seeing more and more out of date packages, but
> the reasons are understandable, maybe I should start relaying on the
> AUR more.
>
> I'm simply curious if there is something we can do to help as users.
>
> Diego

Seems like 0.13 has finally entered in community-testing.

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community-testing/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/

Thanks,
Diego