[arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

Robert Wong leo_wsy at outlook.com
Mon Jul 24 07:48:08 UTC 2017

A general Arch installation is nothing but a minimal set
of GNU/Linux system with a package manager, which
can be configured into anything. I'm not going any
further for you have made yourself clear that you
haven't done your research. Offensive as it can be, I'd
say *RTFM*.

PS: It's apparently navie to say sth like Arch is nothing
but a desktop for archlinux.org itself runs on Arch Linux.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
To: arch-general at archlinux.org
CC: Junayeed Ahnaf

All fine and good but I don't see arch being installed on something
other than desktop/laptop. Of course there are niche cases as arch
server I do not doubt but how much of arch install base is traditional
desktop? I think it's rather high.

On 07/24/2017 01:30 PM, ITwrx.org wrote:
> On 07/24/2017 12:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote:
>> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO?
> Arch Linux is not like desktop focused distributions. Therefore, it's
> ISO does not come with "everything but the kitchen sink" where you have
> a turn-key desktop after running a GUI installer or install script. It
> has the base set of software you need to assemble what you need for your
> given install target.
>> Isn't it widely accepted as
>> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux?
> No, not in general like that. Network manager is primarily used for
> network management with desktop environments, most commonly Gnome, as
> the other respondent noted. Arch Linux is used in many different ways,
> not only for the desktop.
>> Is there any reason
>> for it not to be default?
> The defaults for the ISO would generally be the simpler options, and
> less likely to be something large with a lot of dependencies.  Also,
> minimalist ISOs were the norm rather than the exception in years past
> and for Reasons. They still are in some cases or with some distros.
> Also, there are not always application defaults with Arch Linux like you
> might have with a desktop distro. Arch is "DIY/build your own and choose
> your own defaults (for the most part)" type of distro.

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