[arch-general] latest kernel update surprise

[Jude DaShiell]

That being the case, it may be time to switch to fenrir.  On Sun, 22 Mar
2020, ITwrx wrote:

> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:51:38
> From: ITwrx <info at itwrx.org>
> Reply-To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> To: arch-general at archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] latest kernel update surprise
>
> On 3/22/20 8:28 AM, Piscium via arch-general wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:03, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> wrote:
> >> 5.59-10 on the machine I use.  I'm using a different version of linux on
> >> another disk to write this message.
> >> Strangely, both speaker-test and espeakup no longer work.  The
> >> speaker-test failure would of course
> >> cover espeakup since espeakup uses sound card resources to do screen
> >> reading.
> >> Was anything done to the kernel to cause these failures?
> > Before Arch I used Fedora for 7 years. I found Fedora far more stable
> > than Arch when upgrading to a new Fedora version 3 months after
> > release when most bugs have been fixed. With Arch there is always
> > something that does not work properly and then days or weeks later it
> > starts working again. It is not Arch's fault, rather it results from
> > its KISS principle of making minimal or no changes to upstream
> > packages so you get all the issues from upstream. Fedora does lots of
> > patching and updates things less often so it is more stable than Arch.
> >
> > My suggestion is that if you are looking for reliability to use Debian
> > Stable which has a big choice of packages and it stable, or else
> > Fedora which is in between Debian Stable and Arch with respect to
> > up-to-date packages and stability. Arch might not be the best distro
> > for you. My ?0.02.
>
> i find Arch to be pretty stable, with one caveat: you have to use
> upstream software that will keep up with the rest of the ecosystem to a
> reasonable degree. I try not to use ancient software and only usually
> have problems with maintained software where the upstream devs choose
> the oldest lts distro they can find as their gnu+linux dev/support
> target. I looked at the programs espeakup is connected with, and espeak
> is from 2014, and the speakup download page was last modified in 2015.
>
> I suspect something finally quit working with modern gnu+linux, and not
> so much Arch, in particular. All that being said, if you need really old
> software, you may need a really old distro to run it on.
>

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