From hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de Thu Oct 1 15:45:17 2020 From: hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de (Hauke Fath) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:45:17 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration Message-ID: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Hi, on an arch machine updated yesterday, my XEmacs does not build because the 'sys_siglist' declaration is gone from , where the strsignal(3) man page says it should be. Searching the usual suspects didn't bring up anything. What did I miss? Cheerio, Hauke -- The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Hauke Fath () No HTML/RTF in email Institut f?r Nachrichtentechnik /\ No Word docs in email TU Darmstadt Respect for open standards Ruf +49-6151-16-21344 From jesse.jaara at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 16:59:16 2020 From: jesse.jaara at gmail.com (Jesse Jaara) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 19:59:16 +0300 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration In-Reply-To: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: A bit of Googling would suggest that sys_siglist is only available on BSD. From eschwartz at archlinux.org Thu Oct 1 17:57:09 2020 From: eschwartz at archlinux.org (Eli Schwartz) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:09 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration In-Reply-To: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: On 10/1/20 11:45 AM, Hauke Fath wrote: > Hi, > > on an arch machine updated yesterday, my XEmacs does not build because > the 'sys_siglist' declaration is gone from , where the > strsignal(3) man page says it should be. > > Searching the usual suspects didn't bring up anything. What did I miss? From the glibc 2.32 release notes: Deprecated and removed features, and other changes affecting compatibility: [...] * The deprecated arrays sys_siglist, _sys_siglist, and sys_sigabbrev are no longer available to newly linked binaries, and their declarations have been removed from . They are exported solely as compatibility symbols to support old binaries. All programs should use strsignal instead. https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1ccfc061feee9ce616444ded8e1cd5acf9fa97f -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1601 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de Thu Oct 1 19:28:50 2020 From: hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de (Hauke Fath) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 21:28:50 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration In-Reply-To: References: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: <20201001212850655558.5bd45cd8@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:09 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > From the glibc 2.32 release notes: > > Deprecated and removed features, and other changes affecting compatibility: > [...] > * The deprecated arrays sys_siglist, _sys_siglist, and sys_sigabbrev > are no longer available to newly linked binaries, and their declarations > have been removed from . They are exported solely as > compatibility symbols to support old binaries. All programs should use > strsignal instead. > > https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1ccfc061feee9ce616444ded8e1cd5acf9fa97f Thanks! I'll look into that. As I said, the strsignal(3) man page still refers to sys_siglist, so that would need updating. Cheerio, Hauke -- The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Hauke Fath () No HTML/RTF in email Institut f?r Nachrichtentechnik /\ No Word docs in email TU Darmstadt Respect for open standards Ruf +49-6151-16-21344 From eschwartz at archlinux.org Thu Oct 1 19:30:44 2020 From: eschwartz at archlinux.org (Eli Schwartz) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 15:30:44 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration In-Reply-To: <20201001212850655558.5bd45cd8@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> <20201001212850655558.5bd45cd8@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: On 10/1/20 3:28 PM, Hauke Fath wrote: > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:09 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> From the glibc 2.32 release notes: >> >> Deprecated and removed features, and other changes affecting compatibility: >> [...] >> * The deprecated arrays sys_siglist, _sys_siglist, and sys_sigabbrev >> are no longer available to newly linked binaries, and their declarations >> have been removed from . They are exported solely as >> compatibility symbols to support old binaries. All programs should use >> strsignal instead. >> >> > https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1ccfc061feee9ce616444ded8e1cd5acf9fa97f > > Thanks! I'll look into that. As I said, the strsignal(3) man page still > refers to sys_siglist, so that would need updating. Indeed it does, you can report a documentation bug here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/reporting_bugs.html Thanks! -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1601 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de Fri Oct 2 08:30:49 2020 From: hf at spg.tu-darmstadt.de (Hauke Fath) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 10:30:49 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Missing sys_siglist declaration In-Reply-To: References: <37b03d5a-193f-1041-b89f-aa01f0b9354f@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> <20201001212850655558.5bd45cd8@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: <20201002103049232995.94f670d0@spg.tu-darmstadt.de> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 15:30:44 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > Indeed it does, you can report a documentation bug here: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/reporting_bugs.html Done. Cheerio, Hauke -- The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Hauke Fath () No HTML/RTF in email Institut f?r Nachrichtentechnik /\ No Word docs in email TU Darmstadt Respect for open standards Ruf +49-6151-16-21344 From badwaik.jayesh at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 20:05:11 2020 From: badwaik.jayesh at gmail.com (Jayesh Badwaik) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 01:35:11 +0530 Subject: [arch-general] Update to Boost Libraries Message-ID: Is there a reason why boost libraries are stuck to version 1.72 when 1.74 are already available? I cannot find anything on the bug tracker. Thank you. -- Best Jayesh Badwaik From nerdstep710 at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 21:58:52 2020 From: nerdstep710 at gmail.com (karx) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:58:52 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] Update to Boost Libraries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:05 PM Jayesh Badwaik via arch-general < arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > Is there a reason why boost libraries are stuck to version 1.72 when > 1.74 are already available? I cannot find anything on the bug tracker. > > Thank you. > > -- > Best > Jayesh Badwaik > Hi, How long has the updated version been available? If it was just released then it will take some time for it to get packaged. If it has been a while, you can flag the package out of date through the web interface. Cheers, Yash From anthraxx at archlinux.org Wed Oct 7 22:23:17 2020 From: anthraxx at archlinux.org (Levente Polyak) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 00:23:17 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Update to Boost Libraries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95676BE6-0C79-4BE9-91E2-6F48C115472D@archlinux.org> On October 7, 2020 11:58:52 PM GMT+02:00, karx via arch-general wrote: >On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:05 PM Jayesh Badwaik via arch-general < >arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: >How long has the updated version been available? If it was just >released >then it will take some time for it to get packaged. If it has been a >while, >you can flag the package out of date through the web interface. > Nah unfortunately it has been for a while. I'm very much involved in other time consuming parts lately and hence trying to find a new maintainer that coordinates the massive rebuilds and patches required on each bump. However so far I was unlucky after third time of asking on irc. I will bump this on our ML and hopefully finally find someone motivated and having time for this task. From badwaik.jayesh at gmail.com Wed Oct 7 22:23:13 2020 From: badwaik.jayesh at gmail.com (Jayesh Badwaik) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 03:53:13 +0530 Subject: [arch-general] Update to Boost Libraries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The package has been market out of date for quite some time now (almost 4 months) [0]. One release has now actually been skipped (1.73). -- Jayesh Badwaik https://jayeshbadwaik.github.io [0] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/boost/ From mathias.anselmann at posteo.de Wed Oct 7 22:23:31 2020 From: mathias.anselmann at posteo.de (Mathias Anselmann) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 00:23:31 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Update to Boost Libraries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05ad16d7-1c0d-2d79-9d63-e086e04c9df1@posteo.de> Hi, I also asked me that question some time ago... boost 1.72 was flagged out of date on 2020-04-28, but is still in the repos. Since then 1.73 was released on 2020-04-28 1.74 was released on 2020-08-14 Greetings Mathias Am 07.10.20 um 23:58 schrieb karx via arch-general: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:05 PM Jayesh Badwaik via arch-general < > arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Is there a reason why boost libraries are stuck to version 1.72 when >> 1.74 are already available? I cannot find anything on the bug tracker. >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Best >> Jayesh Badwaik >> > > Hi, > > How long has the updated version been available? If it was just released > then it will take some time for it to get packaged. If it has been a while, > you can flag the package out of date through the web interface. > > Cheers, > > Yash > From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Thu Oct 8 12:45:55 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:45:55 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with ethminer Message-ID: Hello, i have many problems with arch linux and the package ethminer i'm not sure if it is the correct mailinglist for this problem. But i try it When i start ethminer in a terminal with or without sudo, the right opencl device and so on... i became a message like this clBuildProgram SIGSEGV encountered ... stack trace: backtrace() returned 7 addresses ethminer(+0xa2102) [0x5590fe6bf102] /usr/lib/libc.so.6(+0x3d6a0) [0x7f3568ffd6a0] ethminer(+0x36f0b1) [0x5590fe98c0b1] ethminer(+0x145f66) [0x5590fe762f66] ethminer(+0x41caa4) [0x5590fea39aa4] /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x93e9) [0x7f35693013e9] /usr/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x43) [0x7f35690c0293] SIGSEGV encountered ... stack trace: backtrace() returned 8 addresses ethminer(+0xa2102) [0x5590fe6bf102] /usr/lib/libc.so.6(+0x3d6a0) [0x7f3568ffd6a0] ethminer(+0x99018) [0x5590fe6b6018] ethminer(+0x996a8) [0x5590fe6b66a8] ethminer(+0xb1e05) [0x5590fe6cee05] ethminer(+0x41caa4) [0x5590fea39aa4] /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x93e9) [0x7f35693013e9] /usr/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x43) [0x7f35690c0293] Can anyone help me by this issues? Thanks for all -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From u34 at net9.ga Thu Oct 8 13:13:21 2020 From: u34 at net9.ga (u34 at net9.ga) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 13:13:21 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with ethminer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i have many problems with arch linux and the package ethminer > > i'm not sure if it is the correct mailinglist for this problem. But i > try it > > When i start ethminer in a terminal with or without sudo, the right > opencl device and so on... i became a message like this > > > clBuildProgram > SIGSEGV encountered ... > stack trace: > backtrace() returned 7 addresses > ethminer(+0xa2102) [0x5590fe6bf102] > /usr/lib/libc.so.6(+0x3d6a0) [0x7f3568ffd6a0] > ethminer(+0x36f0b1) [0x5590fe98c0b1] > ethminer(+0x145f66) [0x5590fe762f66] > ethminer(+0x41caa4) [0x5590fea39aa4] > /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x93e9) [0x7f35693013e9] > /usr/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x43) [0x7f35690c0293] > SIGSEGV encountered ... > stack trace: > backtrace() returned 8 addresses > ethminer(+0xa2102) [0x5590fe6bf102] > /usr/lib/libc.so.6(+0x3d6a0) [0x7f3568ffd6a0] > ethminer(+0x99018) [0x5590fe6b6018] > ethminer(+0x996a8) [0x5590fe6b66a8] > ethminer(+0xb1e05) [0x5590fe6cee05] > ethminer(+0x41caa4) [0x5590fea39aa4] > /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x93e9) [0x7f35693013e9] > /usr/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x43) [0x7f35690c0293] > > > Can anyone help me by this issues? > > Thanks for all There is a bug. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Core_dump#Examining_a_core_dump might be relevant. I assume you will have to wait for the developers of the software to fix that. Perhaps you could write a bug report, and also search to see what other users of this package suggest. -- u34 From lone_wolf at klaas-de-kat.nl Thu Oct 8 20:22:21 2020 From: lone_wolf at klaas-de-kat.nl (Lone_Wolf) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:22:21 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with ethminer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8cf293a6-5dec-cabd-1e66-d96dc610ea74@klaas-de-kat.nl> On 08-10-2020 14:45, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i have many problems with arch linux and the package ethminer > > i'm not sure if it is the correct mailinglist for this problem. But i > try it > > When i start ethminer in a terminal with or without sudo, the right > opencl device and so on... i became a message like this There are 5 packages for ethminer in AUR[1], none in official repos. Please post to aur-general ML or Aur board on archlinux forums (troubleshooting on forum tends to be easier/faster then on ML)) . Clarify which of those 5 packages you use. Also add lspci -k , glxinfo -B and clinfo outputs. LW [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=ethminer From lm at zork.pl Fri Oct 9 13:30:56 2020 From: lm at zork.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=c5=81ukasz_Michalski?=) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 15:30:56 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] problem upgrading old installation Message-ID: Hi, Any idea how can I overcome this problem: [root at nettest zork]# pacman -S -q --noconfirm archlinux-keyring downloading required keys... error: key "6D42BDD116E0068F" could not be looked up remotely error: required key missing from keyring error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. root at nettest zork]# pacman-key --refresh-keys gpg: refreshing 113 keys from hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net gpg: keyserver refresh failed: General error ==> ERROR: A specified local key could not be updated from a keyserver. I also tried: # pacman-key --init # pacman-key --populate archlinux # pacman-key --refresh-keys Still the same error. I have this problem on two servers with last upate 1,5 year ago. Thanks, ?ukasz From scimmia at archlinux.org Fri Oct 9 13:38:58 2020 From: scimmia at archlinux.org (Doug Newgard) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 08:38:58 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] problem upgrading old installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201009083858.068b2ce9@Scimmia> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 15:30:56 +0200 ?ukasz Michalski wrote: > Hi, > > Any idea how can I overcome this problem: > > [root at nettest zork]# pacman -S -q --noconfirm archlinux-keyring > > downloading required keys... > > error: key "6D42BDD116E0068F" could not be looked up remotely > error: required key missing from keyring > error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error) > Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. > > root at nettest zork]# pacman-key --refresh-keys > gpg: refreshing 113 keys from hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net > gpg: keyserver refresh failed: General error > ==> ERROR: A specified local key could not be updated from a keyserver. > > I also tried: > > # pacman-key --init > # pacman-key --populate archlinux > # pacman-key --refresh-keys > > Still the same error. > > I have this problem on two servers with last upate 1,5 year ago. > > Thanks, > ?ukasz If the system is more than a year old, pacman is too old to successfully update the system anyway. I would suggest booting a recent install disk and using pacman's --sysroot option or use pacman-static. To get past the key error, use a working keyserver. hkps://keyserver.ubunut.com seems to be pretty reliable. From lm at zork.pl Fri Oct 9 14:24:04 2020 From: lm at zork.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=c5=81ukasz_Michalski?=) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 16:24:04 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] problem upgrading old installation In-Reply-To: <20201009083858.068b2ce9@Scimmia> References: <20201009083858.068b2ce9@Scimmia> Message-ID: <42ec4643-4ba0-5cff-8c5d-df5b22435070@zork.pl> On 09/10/2020 15.38, Doug Newgard via arch-general wrote: > > To get past the key error, use a working keyserver. hkps://keyserver.ubunut.com > seems to be pretty reliable. After changing keyserver I got similar error: [root at nettest ~]# pacman-key --refresh-keys --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com [...] gpg: depth: 0? valid:?? 1? signed:?? 6? trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u gpg: depth: 1? valid:?? 6? signed:? 80? trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 6m, 0f, 0u gpg: depth: 2? valid:? 68? signed:? 20? trust: 68-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u gpg: next trustdb check due at 2020-10-11 ==> ERROR: A specified local key could not be updated from a keyserver. BUT then pacman -S archlinux-keyring succeeded! > If the system is more than a year old, pacman is too old to successfully update > the system anyway. I would suggest booting a recent install disk and using > pacman's --sysroot option or use pacman-static. I upgraded this system with old pacman and had well known error: error: hook /usr/share/libalpm/hooks/texinfo-remove.hook line 2: invalid value Path and reinstall all packages # pacman -Qqn | pacman -S - did the trick. Next I had to netctl reenable all profiles and it seems that everything is working now. Many thanks for help! ?ukasz From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Sat Oct 10 10:38:49 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:38:49 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] CUPS HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro Message-ID: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> Hello, my printer is a HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro. But i still can't find any drivers for arch. Normally it is enough to install hplip package from the repos but it don't work. Can anyone help me to fix this problem? Thank you From mrelendig at har-ikkje.net Sat Oct 10 11:00:51 2020 From: mrelendig at har-ikkje.net (Mr.Elendig) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:00:51 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] CUPS HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro In-Reply-To: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> References: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: On 10/10/2020 12:38, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > my printer is a HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro. > But i still can't find any drivers for arch. > > Normally it is enough to install hplip package from the repos > but it don't work. > > Can anyone help me to fix this problem? > > > Thank you > You have to give us a bit more to go on than just "it don't work". How is the printer connected? What exactly did you do? What does localhost:631 say about the printer? From u34 at net9.ga Sat Oct 10 11:05:01 2020 From: u34 at net9.ga (u34 at net9.ga) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 11:05:01 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] CUPS HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro In-Reply-To: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> References: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > my printer is a HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro. > But i still can't find any drivers for arch. > > Normally it is enough to install hplip package from the repos > but it don't work. > > Can anyone help me to fix this problem? > > > Thank you Have you tried hplip-plugin from the AUR, or similar AUR packages? I don't know if that will solve the problem for you. Many HP printers use hplip-plugin. You might also try the wiki, the forums, and the internet in general. ---- u34 From georgpfahler at wachenzell.org Sat Oct 10 13:21:08 2020 From: georgpfahler at wachenzell.org (Georg Pfahler) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:21:08 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] CUPS HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro In-Reply-To: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> References: <46889b02ef0549a6c964d0fe6c89f2305e6e5a19.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: J?rg Jellissen: > Hello, > > my printer is a HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro. > But i still can't find any drivers for arch. > > Normally it is enough to install hplip package from the repos > but it don't work. > > Can anyone help me to fix this problem? > > > Thank you > Hi, I've got the same printer, works fine with hplip (without any AUR packages). relevant lines in my /etc/cups/printers.conf MakeModel HP Officejet 6800, hpcups 3.20.6 DeviceURI hp:/net/Officejet_6800?ip=192.168.2.150 regards -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Now it works Am Samstag, den 10.10.2020, 15:21 +0200 schrieb Georg Pfahler: > J?rg Jellissen: > > Hello, > > > > my printer is a HP OfficeJet 8620 Pro. > > But i still can't find any drivers for arch. > > > > Normally it is enough to install hplip package from the repos > > but it don't work. > > > > Can anyone help me to fix this problem? > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Hi, > > I've got the same printer, works fine with hplip (without any AUR > packages). > > relevant lines in my /etc/cups/printers.conf > > MakeModel HP Officejet 6800, hpcups 3.20.6 > DeviceURI hp:/net/Officejet_6800?ip=192.168.2.150 > > regards > From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Sat Oct 10 17:42:06 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:42:06 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Copy/Paste in KeepassXC Package Message-ID: <17b54a9c46436c794b3776fa59e00fa637559ec1.camel@t-online.de> Hello, i use the Password Manager KeePassXC with my YubiKey Nano 5 NFC Hardware Key. I would like to create in many entrys some notice with copy/paste. But i can't do this? Have anyone an idea why? Is there an issue in the package? Thanks for your help From public at correolibre.net Sat Oct 10 17:55:53 2020 From: public at correolibre.net (public at correolibre.net) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:55:53 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] =?utf-8?q?Copy/Paste_in_KeepassXC_Package?= In-Reply-To: <17b54a9c46436c794b3776fa59e00fa637559ec1.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: <95357-5f81f580-11-6cf72080@231597950> On Saturday, 10 October, 2020 12:42 CDT, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i use the Password Manager KeePassXC with my YubiKey Nano 5 NFC > Hardware Key. > > I would like to create in many entrys some notice with copy/paste. > But i can't do this? > > Have anyone an idea why? > Is there an issue in the package? I use Password Manager KeePassXC, but with master password, work fine copy/paste. Best regards From drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com Sun Oct 11 23:47:51 2020 From: drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com (David C. Rankin) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:47:51 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] Belated Arch-Conf pacman improvement suggestion Message-ID: Allan, While the pacman part of the conference is over, I just ran into an issue that would fit the pacman improvement segment. When updating, if on the first repo, the first mirror selected times-out, then mark that repo failed for the remaining repo checks so you don't sit through two more timeouts on a repo that is known failed at that point. If arch.mirror.constant.com was down yesterday, I could have made the segment :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. From minshall at umich.edu Mon Oct 12 01:49:34 2020 From: minshall at umich.edu (Greg Minshall) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 04:49:34 +0300 Subject: [arch-general] Belated Arch-Conf pacman improvement suggestion In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:47:51 -0500." Message-ID: <1368460.1602467374@apollo2.minshall.org> thanks everybody for the conference! in addition to the content (and getting to see at least a few people's faces), the production details were great. > When updating, if on the first repo, the first mirror selected > times-out, then mark that repo failed for the remaining repo checks so > you don't sit through two more timeouts on a repo that is known failed > at that point. something like this would be nice (where the "marking" would survive for "this run" of pacman, and maybe really means, "move to the end of the list of mirrors to try"). cheers, Greg From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Mon Oct 12 11:08:20 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:08:20 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules Message-ID: Hello, i have a problem with my access rules on my ~/.gnupg folder. The reason is that i can't sign any e-mails . the warning message was that the access rules to the folder are too open but which rights are correct? i have looked in the folder and my rights looks like this drwxr-xr-x 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 12:57 . drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. drwx------ 2 joerg users 4,0K 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d -rw-r--r-- 1 joerg users 2,5K 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx -rw------- 1 joerg users 32 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ -rw-r--r-- 1 joerg users 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status -rw------- 1 joerg users 1,3K 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg is this correct for gpg / Kleopatra? the translated output was Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: gpg: WARNING: Insecure access rights of the home directory `/home/joerg/.gnupg ' gpg: write after '-' gpg: pinentry launched (5745 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for the device gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device Many thanks for helpers From lains at archlinux.org Mon Oct 12 12:31:02 2020 From: lains at archlinux.org (Filipe =?ISO-8859-1?Q?La=EDns?=) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:31:02 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 13:08 +0200, J?rg Jellissen wrote: Hello, i have a problem with my access rules on my ~/.gnupg folder. The reason is that i can't sign any e-mails . the warning message was that the access rules to the folder are too open but which rights are correct? i have looked in the folder and my rights looks like this drwxr-xr-x? 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 12:57 . drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. drwx------? 2 joerg users 4,0K? 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d -rw-r--r--? 1 joerg users 2,5K? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx -rw-------? 1 joerg users?? 32? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ -rw-r--r--? 1 joerg users??? 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status -rw-------? 1 joerg users 1,3K? 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg is this correct for gpg / Kleopatra? the translated output was Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: gpg: WARNING: Insecure access rights of the home directory `/home/joerg/.gnupg ' gpg: write after '-' gpg: pinentry launched (5745 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for the device gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device Many thanks for helpers Seems like there is an issue with the pinentry binary. It does not seem to be compatible with your system. IOCTL are a way to interface with the kernel, they export extra "functions" in file descriptors that you can call. Your system does not support whatever the pinentry is trying to use. You can use strace to try to figure you exactly what is wrong with your pinentry. I'd recommend to open an issue in the upstream to see if they could implement things in an alternative that does not require use of the problematic IOCTL. Cheers, Filipe La?ns -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nts at gyatso.de Mon Oct 12 12:58:08 2020 From: nts at gyatso.de (NTS) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 12:58:08 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules In-Reply-To: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> References: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 12:31, Filipe La?ns via arch-general wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 13:08 +0200, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i have a problem with my access rules on my ~/.gnupg folder. The reason > is that i can't sign any e-mails . > > the warning message was that the access rules to the folder are too > open > > but which rights are correct? > > i have looked in the folder and my rights looks like this > > drwxr-xr-x 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 12:57 . > drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. > drwx------ 2 joerg users 4,0K 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d > -rw-r--r-- 1 joerg users 2,5K 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx > -rw------- 1 joerg users 32 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ > -rw-r--r-- 1 joerg users 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status > -rw------- 1 joerg users 1,3K 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg > > is this correct for gpg / Kleopatra? No, please chmod -R go= ~/.gnupg > the translated output was > > Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: > gpg: WARNING: Insecure access rights of the home directory > `/home/joerg/.gnupg ' > gpg: write after '-' > gpg: pinentry launched (5745 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) > gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for the > device > gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device > > > Many thanks for helpers > > Seems like there is an issue with the pinentry binary. It does not seem > to be compatible with your system. IOCTL are a way to interface with > the kernel, they export extra "functions" in file descriptors that you > can call. Your system does not support whatever the pinentry is trying > to use. If you still have a problem you could try using a different pinentry binary, there are usually several using different/no graphical toolkit(s): $ ll /usr/bin/*pinentry* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3071 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56792 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-curses* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52536 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-emacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77760 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-gnome3* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90560 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-gtk-2* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 123664 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-qt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4 -> pinentry-qt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-qt5 -> pinentry-qt* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52408 Aug 25 22:35 /usr/bin/pinentry-tty* Perhaps a different one will work (because it may not use that functionality). That helped me once. The first suggestion will more likely help here, though. Best wishes, NTS From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Mon Oct 12 13:12:28 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:12:28 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules In-Reply-To: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> References: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> Message-ID: Hello, no it doesn't work yet now i have changed like this chmod -R go= ~/.gnupug but in evolution comes a minimal different error Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: gpg: write after '-' gpg: pinentry launched (6884 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for the device gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device and the ls -lah says drwx------ 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 13:07 . drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. drwx------ 2 joerg users 4,0K 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d -rw------- 1 joerg users 2,5K 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx -rw------- 1 joerg users 32 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ -rw------- 1 joerg users 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status -rw------- 1 joerg users 1,3K 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg i forgot to say the i have my key transfered to a yubikey (PIV=Smartcard) but the key is pluged in the usb device Am Montag, den 12.10.2020, 13:31 +0100 schrieb Filipe La?ns: > On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 13:08 +0200, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i have a problem with my access rules on my ~/.gnupg folder. The > reason > is that i can't sign any e-mails . > > the warning message was that the access rules to the folder are too > open > > but which rights are correct? > > i have looked in the folder and my rights looks like this > > drwxr-xr-x? 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 12:57 . > drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. > drwx------? 2 joerg users 4,0K? 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d > -rw-r--r--? 1 joerg users 2,5K? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx > -rw-------? 1 joerg users?? 32? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ > -rw-r--r--? 1 joerg users??? 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status > -rw-------? 1 joerg users 1,3K? 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg > > is this correct for gpg / Kleopatra? > the translated output was > > Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: > gpg: WARNING: Insecure access rights of the home directory > `/home/joerg/.gnupg ' > gpg: write after '-' > gpg: pinentry launched (5745 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) > gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for > the > device > gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device > > > Many thanks for helpers > > Seems like there is an issue with the pinentry binary. It does not > seem > to be compatible with your system. IOCTL are a way to interface with > the kernel, they export extra "functions" in file descriptors that > you > can call. Your system does not support whatever the pinentry is > trying > to use. > > You can use strace to try to figure you exactly what is wrong with > your > pinentry. I'd recommend to open an issue in the upstream to see if > they > could implement things in an alternative that does not require use of > the problematic IOCTL. > > Cheers, > Filipe La?ns From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Mon Oct 12 13:17:45 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:17:45 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Copy/Paste in KeepassXC Package In-Reply-To: <95357-5f81f580-11-6cf72080@231597950> References: <95357-5f81f580-11-6cf72080@231597950> Message-ID: No, you don't understand me. The login functionality works fine with my master password and my yubikey. I would like to save in my entries a notice so i can verify when i have last checked my passwords. Is it safety or not, or other notice. In this notice field i can not use copy/paste. I thought it is "disabled" or something else Am Samstag, den 10.10.2020, 13:55 -0400 schrieb public--- via arch- general: > On Saturday, 10 October, 2020 12:42 CDT, J?rg Jellissen > wrote: > ? > > Hello, > > > > i use the Password Manager KeePassXC with my YubiKey Nano 5 NFC > > Hardware Key. > > > > I would like to create in many entrys some notice with copy/paste. > > But i can't do this? > > > > Have anyone an idea why? > > Is there an issue in the package? > > ?I use Password Manager KeePassXC, but with master password, work > fine copy/paste. > > Best regards From nts at gyatso.de Mon Oct 12 13:20:14 2020 From: nts at gyatso.de (NTS) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:20:14 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules In-Reply-To: References: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 13:12, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > > Hello, > > no it doesn't work yet > > now i have changed like this > > chmod -R go= ~/.gnupug > > but in evolution comes a minimal different error > > Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: > gpg: write after '-' > gpg: pinentry launched (6884 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) > gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for the > device > gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the device > > > and the ls -lah says > > drwx------ 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 13:07 . > drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. > drwx------ 2 joerg users 4,0K 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d > -rw------- 1 joerg users 2,5K 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx > -rw------- 1 joerg users 32 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ > -rw------- 1 joerg users 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status > -rw------- 1 joerg users 1,3K 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg > > i forgot to say the i have my key transfered to a yubikey > (PIV=Smartcard) but the key is pluged in the usb device OK, in that case make sure scdaemon is installed and running as your user. It's best to start it every time with your graphical shell/session. The private-keys-v1.d will only have a "stub" key and reference the card. Best, NTS From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Mon Oct 12 13:34:06 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:34:06 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Problem with GPG Access Rules In-Reply-To: References: <9dc7e1423f2826019629a245e9fe9dd3df5bbd14.camel@archlinux.org> Message-ID: <971a87c51d7a63359e19272bf7a777a341b4fa15.camel@t-online.de> Thanks for the tip why is the service dead or inactive? ? pcscd.service - PC/SC Smart Card Daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/pcscd.service; indirect; vendor preset: disabled) Active: inactive (dead) since Mon 2020-10-12 15:05:48 CEST; 21min ago TriggeredBy: ? pcscd.socket Docs: man:pcscd(8) Process: 6657 ExecStart=/usr/bin/pcscd --foreground --auto-exit (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 6657 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Okt 12 15:04:47 joerg-desktop systemd[1]: Started PC/SC Smart Card Daemon. Okt 12 15:05:48 joerg-desktop systemd[1]: pcscd.service: Succeeded. i hope it is enough to enable the service again with this command sudo systemctl enable --now pcscd.service Do you think so? Am Montag, den 12.10.2020, 13:20 +0000 schrieb NTS: > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 13:12, J?rg Jellissen > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > no it doesn't work yet > > > > now i have changed like this > > > > chmod -R go= ~/.gnupug > > > > but in evolution comes a minimal different error > > > > Detailed error message: Output from gpg2: > > gpg: write after '-' > > gpg: pinentry launched (6884 curses 1.1.0 - -: 0) > > gpg: Authentication failed: Inappropriate IOCTL (I / O control) for > > the > > device > > gpg: signing failed: Unsuitable IOCTL (I / O control) for the > > device > > > > > > and the ls -lah says > > > > drwx------? 3 joerg users 4,0K 12. Okt 13:07 . > > drwx------ 29 joerg users 4,0K 11. Okt 18:48 .. > > drwx------? 2 joerg users 4,0K? 9. Okt 21:13 private-keys-v1.d > > -rw-------? 1 joerg users 2,5K? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx > > -rw-------? 1 joerg users?? 32? 9. Okt 21:13 pubring.kbx~ > > -rw-------? 1 joerg users??? 7 10. Okt 19:41 reader_0.status > > -rw-------? 1 joerg users 1,3K? 9. Okt 21:13 trustdb.gpg > > > > i forgot to say the i have my key transfered to a yubikey > > (PIV=Smartcard) but the key is pluged in the usb device > > OK, in that case make sure scdaemon is installed and running as your > user.? It's best to start it every time with your graphical > shell/session.? The private-keys-v1.d will only have a "stub" key and > reference the card. > > Best, > > NTS From archange at archlinux.org Mon Oct 12 13:39:05 2020 From: archange at archlinux.org (Archange) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 17:39:05 +0400 Subject: [arch-general] Copy/Paste in KeepassXC Package In-Reply-To: References: <95357-5f81f580-11-6cf72080@231597950> Message-ID: <51be17a7-ce41-f244-0d7e-742b1d0f13dd@archlinux.org> Le 12/10/2020 ? 17:17, J?rg Jellissen a ?crit?: > No, you don't understand me. > > The login functionality works fine with my master password and my > yubikey. > > I would like to save in my entries a notice so i can verify when i have > last checked my passwords. Is it safety or not, or other notice. > > In this notice field i can not use copy/paste. I thought it is > "disabled" or something else I can definitively paste whatever I want in the Notes (localised) field. Are you in editing mode, or trying to write things in the preview pane? Regards, Archange From drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com Tue Oct 13 22:41:54 2020 From: drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com (David C. Rankin) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:41:54 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] Any arch-general changes since 9/24 -- I get no messages (but I see my messages in the archive)? Message-ID: <67914c6b-670a-083e-1ea8-1c81b28362b7@suddenlinkmail.com> Archdevs, Were there any mailing list changes since 9/24 that would explain why I no longer get any arch related messages delivered to my inbox? The last message I received was "Abuse of arch wiki" on 9/24. I see other messages in https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/ as well as the pacman suggestion I sent, but I get nothing on my end. Suddenlink ISP issue? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. From hz0885 at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 05:00:24 2020 From: hz0885 at gmail.com (Zero) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 07:00:24 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Any arch-general changes since 9/24 -- I get no messages (but I see my messages in the archive)? In-Reply-To: <67914c6b-670a-083e-1ea8-1c81b28362b7@suddenlinkmail.com> References: <67914c6b-670a-083e-1ea8-1c81b28362b7@suddenlinkmail.com> Message-ID: <0b772095-c44b-ee0f-a39a-ea07296c16cb@GMail.com> On 10/14/20 12:41 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Archdevs, > > Were there any mailing list changes since 9/24 that would explain why I no > longer get any arch related messages delivered to my inbox? The last message I > received was "Abuse of arch wiki" on 9/24. > > I see other messages in https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/ > as well as the pacman suggestion I sent, but I get nothing on my end. > Suddenlink ISP issue? FWIW I do receive messages from the arch-general mailing list. ~z From lists at 2ion.de Wed Oct 14 14:34:29 2020 From: lists at 2ion.de (Jens John) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:34:29 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] =?utf-8?q?Any_arch-general_changes_since_9/24_--_?= =?utf-8?q?I_get_no_messages_=28but_I_see_my_messages_in_the_archive=29=3F?= In-Reply-To: <67914c6b-670a-083e-1ea8-1c81b28362b7@suddenlinkmail.com> References: <67914c6b-670a-083e-1ea8-1c81b28362b7@suddenlinkmail.com> Message-ID: <9c25b467-9435-4dfc-9f67-0664adfef9a9@www.fastmail.com> On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, at 00:41, David C. Rankin wrote: > I see other messages in https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/ > as well as the pacman suggestion I sent, but I get nothing on my end. > Suddenlink ISP issue? If your messages are accepted by the mailing list's SMTP server, which is why they appear in the archive and you are not getting bounces, but are not going through in the reverse direction, your hoster's SMTP server is likely bouncing email from the Arch servers, probably due to their IP addresses or -blocks being on a DNSBL. Would it be greylisting instead of blacklisting, you should have received something, albeit with some delay. orion.archlinux.org is on at least 1 DNSBL. I think in the past they only used luna to send email -- it could be that orion is new, and it is on a DNSBL, so some issues might have appeared. I see luna disappearing as the email relay some time in July this year, but my local archives could be incomplete. Options are: * Contact your email hoster and get the low quality DNSBL removed or adjusted. * Get the Arch IPs removed from relevant DNSBLs. Usually something the server/IP range owner should be doing. * Switch to an email hoster that gives you more control, or which has better operations. From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Thu Oct 15 21:15:52 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:15:52 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] access jnlp file with icedtea-web Message-ID: <50e26f7b7710d05f01fdecafd3c1b817f9052b02.camel@t-online.de> Hello, i'd like to access a jnlp file with icedtea-web on my arch system. I need this for locale access via ipmi to my server system at home. When i start the file with icedtea-web on a terminal i become the message No DBus connection available is there another option to access the jnlp file without icedtea-web? Thanks for helpers Regards -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think there is no native archlinux package. -- u34 From darose at darose.net Fri Oct 16 14:21:42 2020 From: darose at darose.net (David Rosenstrauch) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 10:21:42 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] access jnlp file with icedtea-web In-Reply-To: <50e26f7b7710d05f01fdecafd3c1b817f9052b02.camel@t-online.de> References: <50e26f7b7710d05f01fdecafd3c1b817f9052b02.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: <8b466177-2d27-14d2-0604-bf653cd53200@darose.net> On 10/15/20 5:15 PM, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > i'd like to access a jnlp file with icedtea-web on my arch system. > I need this for locale access via ipmi to my server system at home. > > When i start the file with icedtea-web on a terminal i become the > message > No DBus connection available > > > is there another option to access the jnlp file without icedtea-web? Not sure why you're having an issue. My KVM uses a jnlp file that I successfully launch with iced tea. I use the packages, running under the XFCE desktop: icedtea-web 1.8.3-2 jre8-openjdk 8.u265-1 HTH, DR From info at aminvakil.com Fri Oct 16 16:20:20 2020 From: info at aminvakil.com (Amin Vakil) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:50:20 +0330 Subject: [arch-general] access jnlp file with icedtea-web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a000a4c-0161-e81f-0d96-d9444e1a2e83@aminvakil.com> > From: J?rg Jellissen > > Hello, > > i'd like to access a jnlp file with icedtea-web on my arch system. > I need this for locale access via ipmi to my server system at home. > > When i start the file with icedtea-web on a terminal i become the > message > No DBus connection available > > > is there another option to access the jnlp file without icedtea-web? > I tried a lot make it work with icedtea-web a while ago, but at last I installed jre8 from aur (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/jre8). Then I use this command to access iLO of HP servers, I hope this helps you. /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-jre/jre/bin/javaws iLO-jirc.jnlp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From joerg.jellissen at t-online.de Sat Oct 17 11:33:09 2020 From: joerg.jellissen at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Jellissen) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 13:33:09 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Applet to change audio output device Message-ID: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> Hello, is for the gnome desktop an applet available for quick change my audio output device? Currently i must change it all the time on "Settings" and "Audio". But this is not optimal for me. I search for a faster variant is there a solution for alsa or pulse? Thanks for help Best Regards and sorry for my english. 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I have some possible suggestions, but it's hard to say without knowing what you are actually trying to do. --Sean From napcode at apparatus.de Sat Oct 17 17:43:44 2020 From: napcode at apparatus.de (Mathias Buhr) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 19:43:44 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Applet to change audio output device In-Reply-To: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> References: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: On 17.10.20 13:33, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > is for the gnome desktop an applet available for quick change my audio > output device? > > Currently i must change it all the time on "Settings" and "Audio". > But this is not optimal for me. > > I search for a faster variant > > is there a solution for alsa or pulse? > > > Thanks for help > > Best Regards > > and sorry for my english. Iam from Germany and my english is not so > good. Hi Joerg, sounds like you're looking for something like this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/906/sound-output-device-chooser/ -Mathias From darose at darose.net Sun Oct 18 13:18:34 2020 From: darose at darose.net (David Rosenstrauch) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 09:18:34 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] Applet to change audio output device In-Reply-To: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> References: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> Message-ID: <1e401283-0fd8-2534-56b2-c305f9d275dc@darose.net> On 10/17/20 7:33 AM, J?rg Jellissen wrote: > Hello, > > is for the gnome desktop an applet available for quick change my audio > output device? > is there a solution for alsa or pulse? Maybe the pulseaudio-plugin for the status bar/panel? I don't use gnome, but I use that plugin under XFCE and it has an output device switcher in it. DR From u34 at net9.ga Sun Oct 18 14:33:51 2020 From: u34 at net9.ga (u34 at net9.ga) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:33:51 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Applet to change audio output device In-Reply-To: <1e401283-0fd8-2534-56b2-c305f9d275dc@darose.net> References: <499e7f69709ec87c96efceaaa9a9c4b87850caa8.camel@t-online.de> <1e401283-0fd8-2534-56b2-c305f9d275dc@darose.net> Message-ID: David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > > On 10/17/20 7:33 AM, J??rg Jellissen wrote: > > Hello, > > > > is for the gnome desktop an applet available for quick change my audio > > output device? > > > is there a solution for alsa or pulse? > > Maybe the pulseaudio-plugin for the status bar/panel? I don't use > gnome, but I use that plugin under XFCE and it has an output device > switcher in it. > > DR As was pointed out earlier, perhaps it would be better if the original poster tells us what his expectations are. Even though I don't know what he is using now, I do believe it sums up to a few mouse clicks and keybaord presses. Is there a solution which doesn't sum to that? It could be that he has accessibility issues. Or that he is using old hardware. Or that his current solution interfere with the actual application. Perhaps he is looking for a speech recognition solution. I do think it might help if he will be more specific. From lists at lrose.de Sun Oct 18 15:29:09 2020 From: lists at lrose.de (LuKaRo) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 17:29:09 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] package pages link to github (which is partly broken) In-Reply-To: <1595445291.3lvr1ok4z5.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> References: <1595438223.6sduvc5nzc.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> <820ce2f9-afbd-9bda-3022-13b7e9c57163@lrose.de> <1595445291.3lvr1ok4z5.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> Message-ID: <4f27a1f5-6edb-5921-9c46-740d837a6d5b@lrose.de> On 7/22/20 9:18 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > Em julho 22, 2020 14:31 LuKaRo escreveu: >> Thanks for clarifying :) Does that mean that gitlab.archlinux.org is >> meant to replace git.archlinux.org in the long run, and GitHub will >> be just a mirror? >> >> LuKaRo >> > > Yes, although, things are still not fully defined for everthing. I > would say, > however, that anything under https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux > can be considered > the de facto upstream for those projects as of now. > > It doesn't mean that mirroring always will be done, or that in some > instances that the > mirroring won't be done in the opposite direction (ie, from gitlab to > github). Things are > still evolving. > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini Hi, I need to pick up this thread once more. Again, I wanted to access an older version of a package in the official repositories today. But the "view changes" link still points to github. I manually found the svntogit/community.git repository under git.archlinux.org. Is git.archlinux.org still supposed to be taken down in the near future? Will the svntogit-repositories move to gitlab until then? Or what will be the local non-commercial mirror for accessing them? Thanks a lot, LuKaRo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2020, 14:33 +0000 schrieb u34 at net9.ga: > David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/17/20 7:33 AM, J??rg Jellissen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > is for the gnome desktop an applet available for quick change my > > > audio > > > output device? > > > > > is there a solution for alsa or pulse? > > > > Maybe the pulseaudio-plugin for the status bar/panel?? I don't use > > gnome, but I use that plugin under XFCE and it has an output device > > switcher in it. > > > > DR > > As was pointed out earlier, perhaps it would be better if the > original poster > tells us what his expectations are. > Even though I don't know what he is using now, I do believe it sums > up to a few > mouse clicks and keybaord presses. Is there a solution which doesn't > sum to that? > It could be that he has accessibility issues. Or that he is using old > hardware. > Or that his current solution interfere with the actual application. > Perhaps he > is looking for a speech recognition solution. > I do think it might help if he will be more specific. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From damokles4-listen at bits-fritz.de Mon Oct 19 10:33:20 2020 From: damokles4-listen at bits-fritz.de (Friedrich Strohmaier) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:33:20 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Finally Solved: Packages "jami-gnome" and "libjamiclient" out of date In-Reply-To: References: <66e636c1-b3f9-e860-7aea-6dc643573518@bits-fritz.de> Message-ID: Hi Bruno, *, digging out this thread and fullquote due to it's old age.. Am 03.02.20 um 01:39 schrieb Archange via arch-general: > Le 3 f?vrier 2020 00:58:02 GMT+01:00, Friedrich Strohmaier a ?crit : >> Hi archers, >> Packages "jami-gnome" and "libjamiclient" are flagged out of date since >> 2019-11-16 / 2019-11-20. There are two new releases in place. >> I tried to contact the maintainer twice but nothing happened. >> I retrieved the maintainers (Bruno Pagani) mail adress from this mailinglist. >> I suspect the mails didn't ever get there. > Yours did, but apparently my reply did not. > So, as I?ve tried to say before, these updates are not straight-forward because they have been some complex dependency changes, e.g. they switched to unreleased versions of OpenDHT or restbed was ditched in favour of restinio. I?ve already spent a bit of time trying to figure all this over Christmas, but wasn?t able to figure everything out. And since then, I?ve considerably lacked free time to spend into doing complex tasks for Arch. I hope this will get better soon but I?m not very optimistic about it currently. [..] Finally You got it working! Just sending a big THANK YOU! You Guys rock! :o)) -- Friedrich From jelle at vdwaa.nl Mon Oct 19 10:47:23 2020 From: jelle at vdwaa.nl (Jelle van der Waa) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:47:23 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] package pages link to github (which is partly broken) In-Reply-To: <4f27a1f5-6edb-5921-9c46-740d837a6d5b@lrose.de> References: <1595438223.6sduvc5nzc.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> <820ce2f9-afbd-9bda-3022-13b7e9c57163@lrose.de> <1595445291.3lvr1ok4z5.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> <4f27a1f5-6edb-5921-9c46-740d837a6d5b@lrose.de> Message-ID: <11174d41-c9d6-0412-2603-695fa45e03c6@vdwaa.nl> On 18/10/2020 17:29, LuKaRo wrote: > On 7/22/20 9:18 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: >> Em julho 22, 2020 14:31 LuKaRo escreveu: >>> Thanks for clarifying :) Does that mean that gitlab.archlinux.org is >>> meant to replace git.archlinux.org in the long run, and GitHub will >>> be just a mirror? >>> >>> LuKaRo >>> >> >> Yes, although, things are still not fully defined for everthing. I >> would say, >> however, that anything under https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux >> can be considered >> the de facto upstream for those projects as of now. >> >> It doesn't mean that mirroring always will be done, or that in some >> instances that the >> mirroring won't be done in the opposite direction (ie, from gitlab to >> github). Things are >> still evolving. >> >> Regards, >> Giancarlo Razzolini > > Hi, > > I need to pick up this thread once more. Again, I wanted to access an > older version of a package in the official repositories today. But the > "view changes" link still points to github. I manually found the > svntogit/community.git repository under git.archlinux.org. Is > git.archlinux.org still supposed to be taken down in the near future? No, the cgit instance will go away in the for see-able future (hopefully 2020). Note that the view changes button works fine? It shows an overview of commits for me for a package. > Will the svntogit-repositories move to gitlab until then? No, as Gitlab isn't able to scale to repository's this size ironically. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/232072 > Or what will be the local non-commercial mirror for accessing them? git.archlinux.org as long as it stays alive. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It shows an > overview of commits for me for a package. >> Will the svntogit-repositories move to gitlab until then? > No, as Gitlab isn't able to scale to repository's this size ironically. > https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/232072 > >> Or what will be the local non-commercial mirror for accessing them? > git.archlinux.org as long as it stays alive. > Hi, thanks for clarifying! It's a pity that GitLab simply doesn't scale enough for our big repository. But at least they confirmed the issue and did some tests, so let's hope this will be fixed in a future version :) Is it right that when the cgit instance is gone, there be will be no local HTTP mirror for these repositories anymore? I think it would be a pity to point all users to GitHub.com, as we would rely on a commercial software with a doubtful privacy policy then. Is it possible to find a solution for that? 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There are two new releases in place. >> [?] >> So, as I?ve tried to say before, these updates are not >> straight-forward because they have been some complex dependency >> changes, e.g. they switched to unreleased versions of OpenDHT or >> restbed was ditched in favour of restinio. I?ve already spent a bit >> of time trying to figure all this over Christmas, but wasn?t able to >> figure everything out. >[?] >Finally You got it working! > >Just sending a big THANK YOU! I want to thank everyone involved in updating jami, too! From u34 at net9.ga Tue Oct 20 09:23:36 2020 From: u34 at net9.ga (u34 at net9.ga) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:23:36 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Nvidia issue not in Latest News section Message-ID: Nvidia issue from the announce list was not published on the site home page. Do the right people aware of that, and I am just craeting noise? -- u34 From foxboron at archlinux.org Tue Oct 20 09:37:34 2020 From: foxboron at archlinux.org (Morten Linderud) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:37:34 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Nvidia issue not in Latest News section In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201020093734.bigmislkyitytgj6@anathema> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:23:36AM +0000, u34 at net9.ga wrote: > Nvidia issue from the announce list was not published on the site home page. > Do the right people aware of that, and I am just craeting noise? It's a draft up for review, as noted in the subject title. > [arch-dev-public] News draft: nvidia 455.28 is incompatible with linux >= 5.9 ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From admin at progandy.de Wed Oct 21 06:32:28 2020 From: admin at progandy.de (Andreas Bosch) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:32:28 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6463d9df-4eeb-6722-9ebb-fa8a3e090b78@progandy.de> On 10/20/20 8:27 PM, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > text file list prefer to fit the disc case > > mick in glen innes 2370 > For the labels you could use cdlabelgen https://www.aczoom.com/tools/cdinsert/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cdlabelgen/ From franck.stauffer at monaco.mc Wed Oct 21 09:31:48 2020 From: franck.stauffer at monaco.mc (Franck STAUFFER) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 11:31:48 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> On 8/15/20 2:38 PM, Geo Kozey wrote: >> ---------------------------------------- >> From: Franck STAUFFER >> Sent: Sat Aug 15 09:32:51 CEST 2020 >> To: karx via arch-general >> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 >> >> >> Shouldn't it be the opposite? >> This is not Debian Stable, packages should be up-to-date and if people >> want older package they have to package it themselves in AUR. >> Am I wrong? >> > > Upstream requested all distros to not ship Thunderbird 78 until 78.2 is released: > https://twitter.com/mozthunderbird/status/1284418789153497090 > > Yours sincerely > > G. K. > Since upstream is now on version 78.3.3 and the message about upgrading (on release notes) has disappeared since version 78.2.3 shouldn't we get this update now? -- Franck STAUFFER ~^~ // "\\ /\\ \\ // //\\\ --------------------------- @ // ///=\\SCII Ribbon Campaign X /=---=\\gainst HTML E- Mail, vCards X /// \\nd MS attachments // \\ ------------------------------------ \ // \\ \// \\ \\ From sammko+arch at sammserver.com Wed Oct 21 10:54:40 2020 From: sammko+arch at sammserver.com (Samuel =?utf-8?B?xIxhdm9q?=) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:54:40 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201021105440.fnarwoa76gdstvjd@fastboi.localdomain> Hi On 21.10.2020 13:27, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > text file list prefer to fit the disc case I suggest xfburn or brasero. Both have simple GUIs and get the job done. > mick in glen innes 2370 From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 21 11:21:49 2020 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:21:49 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: <20201021105440.fnarwoa76gdstvjd@fastboi.localdomain> References: <20201021105440.fnarwoa76gdstvjd@fastboi.localdomain> Message-ID: <20201021132149.1e8f59bb@utnubu> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:54:40 +0200, Samuel ?avoj wrote: >On 21.10.2020 13:27, mick howe via arch-general wrote: >> print a simple, plain text file list prefer to fit the disc case > >I suggest xfburn Hi, I'm using xfburn a lot, but never noticed an option to print CD inlays. Let alone, that the manual page doesn't mention such a feature for cdrecord, which was mentioned by somebody else. I recommend to use a search engine and a search term such as linux software to print cd inlay Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 21 11:45:51 2020 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:45:51 +0200 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: <20201021132149.1e8f59bb@utnubu> References: <20201021105440.fnarwoa76gdstvjd@fastboi.localdomain> <20201021132149.1e8f59bb@utnubu> Message-ID: <20201021134551.46bf6f56@utnubu> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:21:49 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >I recommend to use a search engine and a search term such as > > linux software to print cd inlay I'm serious, it's not meant as an offence. The OP probably already did this ;). At least I never came across all in one software for burning a CD/DVD + printing simple CD or DVD inlays, that fit the CD/DVD case. From jdashiel at panix.com Wed Oct 21 12:02:34 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:02:34 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:27:46 > From: mick howe via arch-general > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Cc: mick howe > Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software > > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > text file list prefer to fit the disc case I've not done the printing part, but cdrskin ought to handle the rest of your requirements nicely. > > mick in glen innes 2370 > -- From nerdstep710 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 12:15:16 2020 From: nerdstep710 at gmail.com (karx) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 07:15:16 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 7:02 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:27:46 > > From: mick howe via arch-general > > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > > Cc: mick howe > > Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software > > > > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > > text file list prefer to fit the disc case > > I've not done the printing part, but cdrskin ought to handle the rest of > your requirements nicely. > > > > > mick in glen innes 2370 > > > > -- > Perhaps if OP told us what exactly he wants to burn, we could be of more assistance. From mickhowe292 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:30:53 2020 From: mickhowe292 at gmail.com (mick howe) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:30:53 +1100 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: <52b04310-be58-3825-443b-d07854457993@gmail.com> References: <52b04310-be58-3825-443b-d07854457993@gmail.com> Message-ID: I didn't make myself clear, there are plenty of adequate programs to author and burn the disc out there but everything seems to go out of its way to make printing a file list to go with the disc a massive chore, I mean how hard would it be to make the printable file list? mick in glen innes 2370 On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 14:21, Javier via arch-general wrote: > > On 10/20/20 8:27 PM, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > > text file list prefer to fit the disc case > > > > mick in glen innes 2370 > > cdrecord from cdrtools does the job on the command line. > > -- > Javier > From mickhowe292 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:49:03 2020 From: mickhowe292 at gmail.com (mick howe) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:49:03 +1100 Subject: [arch-general] cd/dvd burning software In-Reply-To: References: <52b04310-be58-3825-443b-d07854457993@gmail.com> Message-ID: Recently a friend asked me to compile and burn a few of his favourite songs to CDs to keep in his hot rod. worked out to 120 tracks on 4 CDs. That was easy enough to do with brasero or xfburn but neither of them even allow me to directly print the song list or even copy it to the clipboard. The only way to get the list was 'screenshot' the file list to the clipboard, open libreoffice and create a page template, paste the lists into it and print that. mick in Glen Innes 2370 On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 08:30, mick howe wrote: > > I didn't make myself clear, there are plenty of adequate programs to > author and burn the disc out there but everything seems to go out of > its way to make printing a file list to go with the disc a massive > chore, I mean how hard would it be to make the printable file list? > > mick in glen innes 2370 > > On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 14:21, Javier via arch-general > wrote: > > > > On 10/20/20 8:27 PM, mick howe via arch-general wrote: > > > I'm chasing a simple program to burn CD/DVD and print a simple, plain > > > text file list prefer to fit the disc case > > > > > > mick in glen innes 2370 > > > > cdrecord from cdrtools does the job on the command line. > > > > -- > > Javier > > From ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 00:12:39 2020 From: ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com (matthew dyer) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:12:39 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with upgrading arch system do to file conflicts. Message-ID: <2FEF284D-8F61-4FFE-B851-E7A876D5580C@gmail.com> Evening all, When trying to update my arch system, I get a message about files in conflict with speech-dispatcher. Speech-dispatcher is not even listed as an update. I have tried paceman overwrite with no luck. I looked at the arch new updates and saw nothing to the effect of this. Is there something wrong, or a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed? I have not been able to fine anything on this one. I am scratching my head. Any help would be greatly appriseated. Thanks. Matthew From aarnaarn2 at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 00:22:00 2020 From: aarnaarn2 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAINCV0L/QsNC90LXRiNC90LjQutC+0LI=?=) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 03:22:00 +0300 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with upgrading arch system do to file conflicts. In-Reply-To: <2FEF284D-8F61-4FFE-B851-E7A876D5580C@gmail.com> References: <2FEF284D-8F61-4FFE-B851-E7A876D5580C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Can you provide file names? From scimmia at archlinux.org Sat Oct 24 01:13:02 2020 From: scimmia at archlinux.org (Doug Newgard) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:13:02 -0500 Subject: [arch-general] Problems with upgrading arch system do to file conflicts. In-Reply-To: <2FEF284D-8F61-4FFE-B851-E7A876D5580C@gmail.com> References: <2FEF284D-8F61-4FFE-B851-E7A876D5580C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20201023201302.6c98d520@Scimmia> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:12:39 -0400 matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: > Evening all, > > When trying to update my arch system, I get a message about files in conflict with speech-dispatcher. Speech-dispatcher is not even listed as an update. I have tried paceman overwrite with no luck. I looked at the arch new updates and saw nothing to the effect of this. Is there something wrong, or a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed? I have not been able to fine anything on this one. I am scratching my head. > > Any help would be greatly appriseated. > > Thanks. > > Matthew Always, always, ALWAYS post complete errors, or better yet, complete output. From archange at archlinux.org Sat Oct 24 10:02:01 2020 From: archange at archlinux.org (Archange) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 14:02:01 +0400 Subject: [arch-general] Finally Solved: Packages "jami-gnome" and "libjamiclient" out of date In-Reply-To: <20201020064828.e65gg77hw2hyhctb@yuki.localdomain> References: <66e636c1-b3f9-e860-7aea-6dc643573518@bits-fritz.de> <20201020064828.e65gg77hw2hyhctb@yuki.localdomain> Message-ID: <4371e86e-7691-ab00-c186-e37a03932619@archlinux.org> Le 20/10/2020 ? 10:48, Olli a ?crit?: > On 19.10.20 12:33, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: >> Am 03.02.20 um 01:39 schrieb Archange via arch-general: >>> Le 3 f?vrier 2020 00:58:02 GMT+01:00, Friedrich Strohmaier >>> a ?crit : >>>> Packages "jami-gnome" and "libjamiclient" are flagged out of date >>>> since >>>> 2019-11-16 / 2019-11-20. There are two new releases in place. >>> [?] >>> So, as I?ve tried to say before, these updates are not >>> straight-forward because they have been some complex dependency >>> changes, e.g. they switched to unreleased versions of OpenDHT or >>> restbed was ditched in favour of restinio. I?ve already spent a bit >>> of time trying to figure all this over Christmas, but wasn?t able to >>> figure everything out. >> [?] >> Finally You got it working! >> >> Just sending a big THANK YOU! > > I want to thank everyone involved in updating jami, too! Kudos go to David Runge that finally updated libupnp which in turned allowed updating the Jami stack. :) Regards, Bruno/Archange From nsajko at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 00:58:08 2020 From: nsajko at gmail.com (Neven Sajko) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 00:58:08 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] pacman -Rnus inetutils Message-ID: Today pacman surprised me after updating my system: turns out nothing on my installation depended on inetutils any more, so I removed it, even though it was there forever. The following reboot proceeded fine. I'm curious if somebody knows which packages dropped it as a dependency lately. Regards, Neven From chrisjbillington at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 01:36:03 2020 From: chrisjbillington at gmail.com (Chris Billington) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:36:03 +1100 Subject: [arch-general] pacman -Rnus inetutils In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:58 AM Neven Sajko via arch-general < arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > Today pacman surprised me after updating my system: turns out nothing > on my installation depended on inetutils any more, so I removed it, > even though it was there forever. The following reboot proceeded fine. > > I'm curious if somebody knows which packages dropped it as a dependency > lately. > > Regards, > Neven > Likely xorg-xinit: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commit/eea23f0e9c2244ee37656a953913181c7361dbb5#diff-3e341d2d9c67be01819b25b25d5e53ea3cdf3a38d28846cda85a195eb9b7203a From archange at archlinux.org Sun Oct 25 03:12:24 2020 From: archange at archlinux.org (Archange) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:12:24 +0400 Subject: [arch-general] pacman -Rnus inetutils In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65893a45-17b3-c4ec-08fe-cf5b7955bc5a@archlinux.org> Le 25/10/2020 ? 05:36, Chris Billington via arch-general a ?crit?: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:58 AM Neven Sajko via arch-general < > arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Today pacman surprised me after updating my system: turns out nothing >> on my installation depended on inetutils any more, so I removed it, >> even though it was there forever. The following reboot proceeded fine. >> >> I'm curious if somebody knows which packages dropped it as a dependency >> lately. >> >> Regards, >> Neven >> > Likely xorg-xinit: > > https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commit/eea23f0e9c2244ee37656a953913181c7361dbb5#diff-3e341d2d9c67be01819b25b25d5e53ea3cdf3a38d28846cda85a195eb9b7203a Yeah, more generally people (especially Eli) are trying to remove the use of hostname, so that inetutils becomes uneeded more and more (unless you actually require one of the other tools). From p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de Mon Oct 26 14:36:11 2020 From: p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de (p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:36:11 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] usbguard package neglected In-Reply-To: <963a977f-4890-9987-5ca0-f6b637c6a155@archlinux.org> References: <68f8c2d2-6067-4d04-91ed-413a84b45279@mailban.de> <963a977f-4890-9987-5ca0-f6b637c6a155@archlinux.org> Message-ID: On 25.06.20 00:37, Levente Polyak via arch-general wrote: > The trust chain is broken as the signing key changed and after multiple > back and forth I still did not get a signed confirmation of the old key > regarding the new maintainers and keys. > > I will try to re ping them with w 5th mail, lets see if we have more > luck now. Thanks for your reply and the information. Sorry for the late answer but I had a second thought about it recently and have found several reasons why to update USBGuard anyway: 1) It is open source. If there are trust issues one can look at the source code and check what has changed between versions. 2) Developers of other packages don't ever sign their commits so they don't have a chain of trust at all. While a broken chain of trust might be a step backwards, it is still equivalent to having none. 3) Other Linux distributions have updated the package as well. This might seem like a weak reason but if I think about it, I find that it resembles some kind of peer review. Just wanted to share those thoughts so you might have a second look at it. Kind regards From eschwartz at archlinux.org Tue Oct 27 02:45:51 2020 From: eschwartz at archlinux.org (Eli Schwartz) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:45:51 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] usbguard package neglected In-Reply-To: References: <68f8c2d2-6067-4d04-91ed-413a84b45279@mailban.de> <963a977f-4890-9987-5ca0-f6b637c6a155@archlinux.org> Message-ID: <27983da2-4709-444c-433b-fdd5db4b83ab@archlinux.org> On 10/26/20 10:36 AM, arch user via arch-general wrote: > Sorry for the late answer but I had a second thought about it recently > and have found several reasons why to update USBGuard anyway: > > 1) It is open source. If there are trust issues one can look at the > source code and check what has changed between versions. Doing a security audit is expensive and time consuming. Not doing a security audit means "look at the source code and see what changed" accomplishes nothing whatsoever -- we know there are changes or there would not be a new version, but can you prove there are no hidden back doors? > 2) Developers of other packages don't ever sign their commits so they > don't have a chain of trust at all. While a broken chain of trust might > be a step backwards, it is still equivalent to having none. Absolutely not at all. Projects that never signed their software are like people who live in a neighborhood where no one locks their front door, because it's too much work to fiddle with a door key. Projects with a a broken chain of trust are like that one person who *does* lock his front door, but one day the lock got ripped off the door and replaced by a gaping hole. It is hugely suspicious and everyone walking down the street has good reason to notice and suspect a robbery occurred. Now, it's *possible* the owner lost his key and destroyed his own front door in order to get back into his own house. But is it likely? You could ask him, but he's a recluse slash internet person, so you're not really sure what he looks like. The guy wandering around inside the house might be the owner, but he might also be a thief... what do you do? > 3) Other Linux distributions have updated the package as well. This > might seem like a weak reason but if I think about it, I find that it > resembles some kind of peer review. ... apparently you say "oh, I guess you're the owner then, sorry to bother you. BTW you should probably fix your door because it looks weird now. No pressure." That's indeed weak. What kind of peer review are you claiming this is, exactly? ... The point of a signing key is to say "this key certifies the correct software and I commit to using it. Anything else is automatically suspect as malware". You don't immediately respond by saying "well it came from the same website and some unverified source told me the key totally got lost but it's fine. So let's blindly click accept". It doesn't matter if other distros are okay with that. Arch Linux is not. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1601 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de Tue Oct 27 11:31:04 2020 From: p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de (p5l3jutd3ln5gsy0 at mailban.de) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:31:04 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] usbguard package neglected In-Reply-To: <27983da2-4709-444c-433b-fdd5db4b83ab@archlinux.org> References: <68f8c2d2-6067-4d04-91ed-413a84b45279@mailban.de> <963a977f-4890-9987-5ca0-f6b637c6a155@archlinux.org> <27983da2-4709-444c-433b-fdd5db4b83ab@archlinux.org> Message-ID: On 27.10.20 03:45, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > The point of a signing key is to say "this key certifies the correct > software and I commit to using it. Anything else is automatically > suspect as malware". > > You don't immediately respond by saying "well it came from the same > website and some unverified source told me the key totally got lost but > it's fine. So let's blindly click accept". The only thing a signing key accomplishes is that you can verify what other commits were made by that signing key, i. e. person. If you verified the key via a second channel you also know the person the key belongs to. Anything beyond that is just a point of view. A signing key has nothing to do with malware at all. What made you think the software hasn't been malware in the first place? What makes you think the person owning that signing key isn't writing good software until some distros are trusting his key, adding the software as official package and then the person starts implementing evil backdoors? I'm just wondering, because you can easily write malicious software and sign it with the same key all the time. From justincapella at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 13:23:59 2020 From: justincapella at gmail.com (Justin Capella) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 06:23:59 -0700 Subject: [arch-general] usbguard package neglected In-Reply-To: References: <68f8c2d2-6067-4d04-91ed-413a84b45279@mailban.de> <963a977f-4890-9987-5ca0-f6b637c6a155@archlinux.org> <27983da2-4709-444c-433b-fdd5db4b83ab@archlinux.org> Message-ID: You can build the latest yourself https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/usbguard-git/ but it is good that Levente is being diligent in verifying the new maintainers. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:31 AM arch user via arch-general < arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > On 27.10.20 03:45, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > The point of a signing key is to say "this key certifies the correct > > software and I commit to using it. Anything else is automatically > > suspect as malware". > > > > You don't immediately respond by saying "well it came from the same > > website and some unverified source told me the key totally got lost but > > it's fine. So let's blindly click accept". > > > The only thing a signing key accomplishes is that you can verify what > other commits were made by that signing key, i. e. person. If you > verified the key via a second channel you also know the person the key > belongs to. Anything beyond that is just a point of view. > > A signing key has nothing to do with malware at all. What made you think > the software hasn't been malware in the first place? What makes you > think the person owning that signing key isn't writing good software > until some distros are trusting his key, adding the software as official > package and then the person starts implementing evil backdoors? > > I'm just wondering, because you can easily write malicious software and > sign it with the same key all the time. > From bjo at schafweide.org Tue Oct 27 13:35:38 2020 From: bjo at schafweide.org (Bjoern Franke) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 14:35:38 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> Message-ID: <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> Hi, >> >> Upstream requested all distros to not ship Thunderbird 78 until 78.2 is released: >> https://twitter.com/mozthunderbird/status/1284418789153497090 >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> G. K. >> > > Since upstream is now on version 78.3.3 and the message about upgrading > (on release notes) has disappeared since version 78.2.3 shouldn't we get > this update now? > I've switched now to 78.4.0 (from AUR) and it seems at lot of bugs of the first 78.x releases are gone. And even Ubuntu ships 78.x now, so switching to 78.x should be fine :) Best Regards Bjoern From geokozey at mailfence.com Tue Oct 27 17:27:33 2020 From: geokozey at mailfence.com (Geo Kozey) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:27:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> Message-ID: <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> > From: Bjoern Franke via arch-general > Sent: Tue Oct 27 14:35:38 CET 2020 > To: > Cc: Bjoern Franke > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 > > I've switched now to 78.4.0 (from AUR) and it seems at lot of bugs of > the first 78.x releases are gone. > > And even Ubuntu ships 78.x now, so switching to 78.x should be fine :) > Even debian oldstable ships it :) https://packages.debian.org/stretch/thunderbird I think the problem may be that current maintainers don't really use it and don't have the time for it. Maybe it should be dropped to AUR? Yours sincerely G. K. From j.e.vasquez.v at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 22:12:29 2020 From: j.e.vasquez.v at gmail.com (Javier) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:12:29 -0600 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every release. Besides, current version works just fine... Regards ! -- Javier On 10/27/20 11:27 AM, Geo Kozey via arch-general wrote: >> From: Bjoern Franke via arch-general >> Sent: Tue Oct 27 14:35:38 CET 2020 >> To: >> Cc: Bjoern Franke >> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 >> >> I've switched now to 78.4.0 (from AUR) and it seems at lot of bugs of >> the first 78.x releases are gone. >> >> And even Ubuntu ships 78.x now, so switching to 78.x should be fine :) >> > > Even debian oldstable ships it :) > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/thunderbird > > I think the problem may be that current maintainers don't really use it > and don't have the time for it. Maybe it should be dropped to AUR? > > Yours sincerely > > G. K. > -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bjo at schafweide.org Tue Oct 27 22:26:16 2020 From: bjo at schafweide.org (Bjoern Franke) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:26:16 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> Am 27.10.20 um 23:12 schrieb Javier via arch-general: > I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every release. Besides, current version works just fine... > There are also bin-packages so you don't have build it really. Best Regards Bjoern From maarten at de-vri.es Wed Oct 28 11:20:45 2020 From: maarten at de-vri.es (Maarten de Vries) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:20:45 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:26, Bjoern Franke via arch-general < arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > Am 27.10.20 um 23:12 schrieb Javier via arch-general: > > I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every > release. Besides, current version works just fine... > > > > There are also bin-packages so you don't have build it really. > True, but it still won't update automatically with `pacman -Syu`. For an email client, automatic security updates are quite important. Having to update manually from the AUR would certainly be a downgrade in user experience. Anyway, I can't imagine that not a single Arch packager or TU is using thunderbird. -- Maarten From archange at archlinux.org Wed Oct 28 11:44:21 2020 From: archange at archlinux.org (Archange) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 15:44:21 +0400 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> Message-ID: <0a85c2f4-8b1f-f2ce-cd85-188a356c3b6c@archlinux.org> Le 28/10/2020 ? 15:20, Maarten de Vries via arch-general a ?crit?: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:26, Bjoern Franke via arch-general < > arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Am 27.10.20 um 23:12 schrieb Javier via arch-general: >>> I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every >> release. Besides, current version works just fine... >> There are also bin-packages so you don't have build it really. >> > True, but it still won't update automatically with `pacman -Syu`. For an > email client, automatic security updates are quite important. Having to > update manually from the AUR would certainly be a downgrade in user > experience. An AUR helper can solve this, but a binary is not good when it can be avoided for system shared libs instead. > Anyway, I can't imagine that not a single Arch packager or TU is using > thunderbird. Several of us use it (though I guess most use mutt or neomutt), but anthraxx, the maintainer, seems quite busy and want to triple check things around the new GPG interface before pushing. Regards, Archange From geokozey at mailfence.com Wed Oct 28 13:27:52 2020 From: geokozey at mailfence.com (Geo Kozey) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:27:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> Message-ID: <1829120324.14968.1603891672414@ichabod.co-bxl> > From: Maarten de Vries via arch-general > Sent: Wed Oct 28 12:20:45 CET 2020 > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Cc: Maarten de Vries > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 > > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:26, Bjoern Franke via arch-general < > arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > > > Am 27.10.20 um 23:12 schrieb Javier via arch-general: > > > I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every > > release. Besides, current version works just fine... > > > > > > > There are also bin-packages so you don't have build it really. > > > > True, but it still won't update automatically with `pacman -Syu`. For an > email client, automatic security updates are quite important. Having to > update manually from the AUR would certainly be a downgrade in user > experience. > Current version is affected by many known security vulnerabilities[1]. This is the reason even your grandma distro made update. I think running ' -Syu' isn't beyond capabilities of someone who takes security importantly. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/thunderbird/ Yours sincerely G. K. From kevr at 0cost.org Wed Oct 28 23:28:04 2020 From: kevr at 0cost.org (Kevin Morris) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:28:04 -0700 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> Message-ID: <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> Could you guys reference the security patches that Arch is critically missing out on by delaying this update? I've noticed a couple of you speaking on that, but not actually citing any concrete problem areas. With the update, TB is implementing PGP by themselves without gnupg for internal PGP usage. This is quite a large change, security-wise, and could result in encryption/signing being broken. For this reason, some of the Arch security team is doing their work and relentlessly reviewing their implementation, among other changes that have been included in the update binaries. This is being done because it's known that PGP on Thunderbird at the current version in Arch is still using gnupg to do it's work, so it's known that we can depend on that PGP implementation in a stable way. Arch wants to make sure that it's users aren't being faked out; that is, if Arch users expect that they're using their PGP keys for their email, but TBird's implementation is broken in some way, that would cause havoc within the community and possibly leak out private information that people depend on PGP to keep safe. Yes, it's taking longer than usual. But the good news is, after this update, I doubt Mozilla will be modifying their PGP implementation anytime soon, and thus won't need such close review. Disclaimer: I'm not an Arch TU, staff member, or anything like that. I'm just a community member. On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:20:45PM +0100, Maarten de Vries via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:26, Bjoern Franke via arch-general < > arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > > > Am 27.10.20 um 23:12 schrieb Javier via arch-general: > > > I really hope not, I prefer to wait than having to build TB on every > > release. Besides, current version works just fine... > > > > > > > There are also bin-packages so you don't have build it really. > > > > True, but it still won't update automatically with `pacman -Syu`. For an > email client, automatic security updates are quite important. Having to > update manually from the AUR would certainly be a downgrade in user > experience. > > Anyway, I can't imagine that not a single Arch packager or TU is using > thunderbird. > > -- Maarten -- Kevin Morris Software Developer From bjo at schafweide.org Thu Oct 29 08:40:07 2020 From: bjo at schafweide.org (Bjoern Franke) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:40:07 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> Message-ID: Hi, > Yes, it's taking longer than usual. But the good news is, after this > update, I doubt Mozilla will be modifying their PGP implementation > anytime soon, and thus won't need such close review. To be honest, it's somehow irritating to stick on a version because somebody may find an implementation not satisfying and users might get problems if they use the new implementation. There is no upgrade warning from Mozilla regarding PGP any more, so we should follow upstream. Regards Bjoern From julien at mail.upb.de Thu Oct 29 11:38:31 2020 From: julien at mail.upb.de (Jeanette C.) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:38:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Problem formatting/initialising new WD GameDrive USB disk Message-ID: Hey hey, I have just got a new Western Digital USB drive, GameDrive, an 8TB medium. I can't however format it or even create a new partition table. I am running a fairly up-to-date system: Kernel: 5.6.19-rt12-1-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT The device is recognised upon connection, also lsblk shows it. blkid however doesn't show it. Fdisk can't open it, reporting: fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Input/output error parted will start with it and show its identifier and size, but not even create a partition table, complaining about an input/output error. Here is a snippet from dmesg: [1206985.479621] usb 1-4.1: new high-speed USB device number 95 using ehci-pci [1206985.623255] usb 1-4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=2631, bcdDevice=50.06 [1206985.623261] usb 1-4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1 [1206985.623264] usb 1-4.1: Product: Game Drive [1206985.623266] usb 1-4.1: Manufacturer: Western Digital [1206985.623268] usb 1-4.1: SerialNumber: 3030303030303030303030303030303030303030 [1206985.624147] usb-storage 1-4.1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [1206985.630644] scsi host6: usb-storage 1-4.1:1.0 [1206986.679886] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD Game Drive 5006 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [1206986.680412] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [1206986.684981] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). [1206986.685480] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 15628052480 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 TB/7.28 TiB) [1206986.685484] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 4096-byte physical blocks [1206986.686601] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [1206986.686604] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08 [1206986.690364] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found [1206986.690369] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [1206986.701963] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 device offline or changed [1206986.701969] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 [1206986.701977] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 0, async page read [1206986.702009] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 device offline or changed [1206986.702011] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 [1206986.702017] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 0, async page read [1206986.702061] ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed. [1206986.702080] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 device offline or changed [1206986.702081] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 [1206986.702087] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 0, async page read ... I know that the Western Digital USB drives are prone to have issues upon setup, but I'm stuck with it. Can anyone help, suggest further action? I'd very much prefer to stay on the commandline. TIA and best wishes, Jeanette -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Ain't no way I'll be lonely <3 (Britney Spears) From ralph at inputplus.co.uk Thu Oct 29 11:43:08 2020 From: ralph at inputplus.co.uk (Ralph Corderoy) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:43:08 +0000 Subject: [arch-general] Problem formatting/initialising new WD GameDrive USB disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201029114308.8764A20153@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Hi Jeanette, > I have just got a new Western Digital USB drive, GameDrive, an 8TB medium. Being USB, is it connected directly to the PC or strung out on a hub? Can you try altering how it is connected? Is it definitely getting sufficient power? For example, is it on a powered hub, or does it have its own separate supply? -- Cheers, Ralph. From julien at mail.upb.de Thu Oct 29 11:49:39 2020 From: julien at mail.upb.de (Jeanette C.) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:49:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Problem formatting/initialising new WD GameDrive USB disk In-Reply-To: <20201029114308.8764A20153@orac.inputplus.co.uk> References: <20201029114308.8764A20153@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Message-ID: Oct 29 2020, Ralph Corderoy has written: ... > Being USB, is it connected directly to the PC or strung out on a hub? I have tried both. ... > Is it definitely getting sufficient power? It coems with its own power supply. ... Best wishes, Jeanette -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Ain't no way I'll be lonely <3 (Britney Spears) From geokozey at mailfence.com Thu Oct 29 12:51:23 2020 From: geokozey at mailfence.com (Geo Kozey) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:51:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> Message-ID: <831407054.97708.1603975882766@ichabod.co-bxl> > From: Kevin Morris > Sent: Thu Oct 29 00:28:04 CET 2020 > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 > > > Could you guys reference the security patches that Arch is > critically missing out on by delaying this update? I've noticed > a couple of you speaking on that, but not actually citing > any concrete problem areas. I sent mail with link to mozilla advisory 10h before you asked for it so this complaint is completely off. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/thunderbird/ > With the update, TB is implementing PGP by themselves without gnupg > for internal PGP usage. This is quite a large change, security-wise, > and could result in encryption/signing being broken. For this reason, > some of the Arch security team is doing their work and relentlessly > reviewing their implementation, among other changes that have been > included in the update binaries. That's nice to hear that Arch is now doing security audit of package updates even when facing lack of manpower. I understand you work closely with upstream and other distros which faced exact same issue and we will see your final report and patches sent upstream. > This is being done because it's known that PGP on Thunderbird at > the current version in Arch is still using gnupg to do it's work, > so it's known that we can depend on that PGP implementation > in a stable way. Arch wants to make sure that it's users aren't > being faked out; that is, if Arch users expect that they're using > their PGP keys for their email, but TBird's implementation is broken > in some way, that would cause havoc within the community and > possibly leak out private information that people depend on PGP > to keep safe. That's great but again is this cooperated with upstream and other distros in any way? As they made updates already them may have some knowledge about the matter and it would be waste if every single distro had to learn everything from scratch. > Yes, it's taking longer than usual. But the good news is, after this > update, I doubt Mozilla will be modifying their PGP implementation > anytime soon, and thus won't need such close review. Well, if you find some issues (which is the point) then they will have to modify their implementation, no? Yours sincerely G. K. From foxboron at archlinux.org Thu Oct 29 12:57:35 2020 From: foxboron at archlinux.org (Morten Linderud) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:57:35 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <831407054.97708.1603975882766@ichabod.co-bxl> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> <831407054.97708.1603975882766@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: <20201029125735.u7kjs2tckc5kvezs@anathema> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 01:51:23PM +0100, Geo Kozey via arch-general wrote: > > From: Kevin Morris > > With the update, TB is implementing PGP by themselves without gnupg > > for internal PGP usage. This is quite a large change, security-wise, > > and could result in encryption/signing being broken. For this reason, > > some of the Arch security team is doing their work and relentlessly > > reviewing their implementation, among other changes that have been > > included in the update binaries. > > That's nice to hear that Arch is now doing security audit of package updates > even when facing lack of manpower. I understand you work closely with > upstream and other distros which faced exact same issue and we will see > your final report and patches sent upstream. We don't do this. We don't have the capacity, nor the technical capability to review these things. Ensuring it works is not the same as going through implementation details. I do not know where Kevin got this impression from. -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From geokozey at mailfence.com Thu Oct 29 13:21:34 2020 From: geokozey at mailfence.com (Geo Kozey) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:21:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 In-Reply-To: <20201029125735.u7kjs2tckc5kvezs@anathema> References: <7a391376-9015-624d-b978-54dc748c9ae5@monaco.mc> <1565117125.359644.1597495120072@ichabod.co-bxl> <5893408a-da0e-ff51-2533-aa9b46f0558f@monaco.mc> <72e21225-f5a9-b789-fdde-1cef9b70b059@schafweide.org> <1622995093.386692.1603819653009@ichabod.co-bxl> <8ff928a0-7bc7-6581-144e-83c427e131f5@gmail.com> <352eff04-0242-efcf-4016-790447c5ddf3@schafweide.org> <20201028232804.GA152114@volcano.local.net> <831407054.97708.1603975882766@ichabod.co-bxl> <20201029125735.u7kjs2tckc5kvezs@anathema> Message-ID: <1430358336.99952.1603977694116@ichabod.co-bxl> > From: Morten Linderud via arch-general > Sent: Thu Oct 29 13:57:35 CET 2020 > To: > Cc: Morten Linderud > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird 78 > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 01:51:23PM +0100, Geo Kozey via arch-general wrote: > > > From: Kevin Morris > > > With the update, TB is implementing PGP by themselves without gnupg > > > for internal PGP usage. This is quite a large change, security-wise, > > > and could result in encryption/signing being broken. For this reason, > > > some of the Arch security team is doing their work and relentlessly > > > reviewing their implementation, among other changes that have been > > > included in the update binaries. > > > > That's nice to hear that Arch is now doing security audit of package updates > > even when facing lack of manpower. I understand you work closely with > > upstream and other distros which faced exact same issue and we will see > > your final report and patches sent upstream. > > We don't do this. We don't have the capacity, nor the technical capability to > review these things. Ensuring it works is not the same as going through > implementation details. > > I do not know where Kevin got this impression from. > > -- > Morten Linderud > PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16 I know, I don't demand something like this from Arch devs and I knew someone is speaking about things they don't know here so my reply was a bit sarcastic :) My only advice would be to push new TB to testing so you get at least some initial feedback from users if something is broken or not. Yours sincerely G. K. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Oct 29 18:11:00 2020 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:11:00 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Problem formatting/initialising new WD GameDrive USB disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201029191100.68ee6561@utnubu> Hi Jeanette, external USB drives could be a PITA. I don't buy pre-build drives, but most enclosures I bought were a PITA, suffering from input/output errors. I had a lot of discussions with vendors and always got my money back. As a rule of thumb, if the USB controller (again, the USB controller, not the HDD) turns off itself and or the HDD after an idle time, then input/output errors are a safe bet. In my experiences this usually happens after an idle time from around 10 minutes. I'm using fantec DB-ALU3e enclosures. The USB controller is always on, it never turns off anything, no input/output errors, unless the HDD is broken. Note, don't get another enclosure, such as the DB-ALU3-6G from the same vendor. They suffer from input/output errors, because the control tries to be smart. The fantec DB-ALU3e enclosures has got USB3 and eSATA connectors, but can only be equipped with a maximal size of 4 TiB. I'm only using USB. Works on USB2 as well as USB3 ports without issues. The first time you might not be able to blindly build in a HDD into such an enclosure, but it's that easy, that every unskilled person can help you and with some practise you likely could DIY. https://www.reichelt.de/fantec-db-alu3e-externes-3-5-sata-hdd-gehaeuse-usb-3-0-esata-fantec-db-alu3e-p120608.html?&trstct=pos_0&nbc=1 FWIW I own one old pre-build green USB WD drive. It does park the HDD's heads after an idle time, but if it gets waked up, it does not suffer from input/output errors. It's much likely the HDD that handles this and not the USB controller, however, to avoid that this drives goes to sleep and is woken up immediately, I removed software such as GVFS (dummy package), have software such as smartd not enabled, since all this software does wake up sleeping drives, right after they switched into stand by mode, which would cause my WD drive to park and release the heads every 30 minutes. Regards, Ralf From lists at lrose.de Thu Oct 29 18:23:05 2020 From: lists at lrose.de (LuKaRo) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:23:05 +0100 Subject: [arch-general] Problem formatting/initialising new WD GameDrive USB disk In-Reply-To: References: <20201029114308.8764A20153@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Message-ID: <2f96c253-0c3e-1171-add6-61be1084dd9f@lrose.de> On 10/29/20 12:49 PM, Jeanette C. via arch-general wrote: > Oct 29 2020, Ralph Corderoy has written: > ... >> Being USB, is it connected directly to the PC or strung out on a hub? > I have tried both. > ... >> Is it definitely getting sufficient power? > It coems with its own power supply. > ... Do you have access to a different system for testing? Have you tried different USB cables, maybe the one supplied by the manufacturer is faulty? I'm using lots of external USB drives with Arch Linux from multiple vendors, including Western Digital. I never had such problems on a new drive, though. 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From alexhenrie24 at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 20:55:01 2020 From: alexhenrie24 at gmail.com (Alex Henrie) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:55:01 -0600 Subject: [arch-general] ibus has been out-of-date for over a month Message-ID: Dear Arch maintainers, ibus 1.5.23 was released at the end of last month,[1] but Arch is still on 1.5.22.[2] Could you please update the package? The new version supports compose rules that output multiple codepoints,[3] which I need to type certain Greek characters such as "??". -Alex [1] https://github.com/ibus/ibus/releases [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/ibus/ [3] https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/b59f7f823b7b2051e4ca31834f9299a72f01b339 From goodmenzy at gmail.com Fri Oct 30 09:12:09 2020 From: goodmenzy at gmail.com (Yi Zheng) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:12:09 +0800 Subject: [arch-general] sysstat man-page wrong Message-ID: /usr/share/man/man1/pidstat.1.xz.gz is compressed twice. man: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/pidstat.1.xz.gz: ignoring bogus filename No manual entry for pidstat Could you please fixup that defect? From eschwartz at archlinux.org Fri Oct 30 11:18:53 2020 From: eschwartz at archlinux.org (Eli Schwartz) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:18:53 -0400 Subject: [arch-general] sysstat man-page wrong In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/30/20 5:12 AM, Yi Zheng via arch-general wrote: > /usr/share/man/man1/pidstat.1.xz.gz is compressed twice. > > man: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/pidstat.1.xz.gz: ignoring bogus filename > No manual entry for pidstat > > Could you please fixup that defect? https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/67703?project=5&string=sysstat -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, ?ukasz From aarnaarn2 at gmail.com Fri Oct 30 18:33:04 2020 From: aarnaarn2 at gmail.com (Alexander Epaneshnikov) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:33:04 +0300 Subject: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] archiso v49 with new features In-Reply-To: <1604079279.tgo4atx2di.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> References: <20201030171408.GA29180@hmbx> <1604079279.tgo4atx2di.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> Message-ID: <427455af-bb37-1560-0c13-f30a0c298082@gmail.com> ok. i write on arch general because i can't write to arch dev publick. 30.10.2020 20:36, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public ?????: > Em outubro 30, 2020 14:14 David Runge escreveu: >> >> If this mail reads like a changelog, then well, it is because I don't >> have a >> changelog in the project yet! ;-) >> Apart from that I thought it might be worthwhile to write a news item >> about it after the next ISO has been released and share the above two >> changes on the website. What do you think? >> > > I think accessibility is a huge milestone that, on its down, deserve a > news entry. yes. i think that too. i am preparing wiki documentation for accessible installation procedure. will try to finish the draft by the end of the week. > I have assisted a blind person to install Arch some time ago and it > was very difficult. > In the end, I wrote a small script to help with the installation. And > this is not because > the person wasn't technically able, but our iso didn't made it easy. hmm. talking-arch is available for long time. but i am sure that now such task will become much easier. > > Nice work! > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini -- Sincerely, Alexander. From justincapella at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 00:13:25 2020 From: justincapella at gmail.com (Justin Capella) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:13:25 -0700 Subject: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] archiso v49 with new features In-Reply-To: <427455af-bb37-1560-0c13-f30a0c298082@gmail.com> References: <20201030171408.GA29180@hmbx> <1604079279.tgo4atx2di.astroid@arch.razzolini.com.br.none> <427455af-bb37-1560-0c13-f30a0c298082@gmail.com> Message-ID: Saw mention of assisting blind users, and thought I'd mention TalkingArch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TalkingArch On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:36 AM Alexander Epaneshnikov via arch-general < arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote: > ok. i write on arch general because i can't write to arch dev publick. > 30.10.2020 20:36, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public ?????: > > Em outubro 30, 2020 14:14 David Runge escreveu: > >> > >> If this mail reads like a changelog, then well, it is because I don't > >> have a > >> changelog in the project yet! ;-) > >> Apart from that I thought it might be worthwhile to write a news item > >> about it after the next ISO has been released and share the above two > >> changes on the website. What do you think? > >> > > > > I think accessibility is a huge milestone that, on its down, deserve a > > news entry. > yes. i think that too. i am preparing wiki documentation for accessible > installation procedure. > will try to finish the draft by the end of the week. > > I have assisted a blind person to install Arch some time ago and it > > was very difficult. > > In the end, I wrote a small script to help with the installation. And > > this is not because > > the person wasn't technically able, but our iso didn't made it easy. > hmm. talking-arch is available for long time. but i am sure that now > such task > will become much easier. > > > > Nice work! > > > > Regards, > > Giancarlo Razzolini > > -- > Sincerely, Alexander. >