[arch-general] definition of "orphan"

Giancarlo Razzolini grazzolini at archlinux.org
Tue Mar 16 15:47:22 UTC 2021


Em março 16, 2021 12:35 Maxim Vuets via arch-general escreveu:
> 
> In spite of the backlash that Matthias has got, I think he has a point.
> Yes, the contexts are different (dependencies and ownership), yet they
> are related (packages). Mind the curse of knowledge[1]: it's pretty
> clear what an orphan means once you know what it means, so perhaps it
> does not hurt to add a bit more clarity for newcomers.
> 
> In my mind, the pacman term "orphan" fits no longer required leftovers
> well, because it deals with hierarchy and dependencies. On the other
> hand, the AUR's "orphan" has less to do with parents, but more with
> owners, maintainers (and caregivers?). Perhaps, semantic synonyms like
> unowned, unmaintained, disowned would be better suited.
> 
> Now, a price and whether to change the existing terminology is a
> completely different matter of discussion.
> 
> Maxim's 2¢.
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge
> 

I think enough shed discussion happened already. Why don't the proponents actually
go out and try to paint it? The projects involved here, pacman, archweb and aurweb are all
open source and can receive patches.

Regards,
Giancarlo Razzolini
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