[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

[Morten Linderud]

On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 09:20:10AM +0000, Christopher W. wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 4:27 AM, Morten Linderud via arch-general <arch-general at lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:17:37AM +0100, Antonio Rojas via arch-general wrote:
> > Now,
> > 
> > Please stop posting FUD people. This all started with a misguided reddit
> > thread and currentl spun on 4chan as a problem. That's what they do and
> > clearly it seems like it's working when people post threads like this
> > pissing off maintainers.
> 
> In full disclosure, you are one of the reddit mods. And probably the one who
> deleted the thread there about this very real problem. You're the same reddit
> mod who swiftly deletes all threads every year that Arch changes its logo to a
> rainbow and users (rightly) complain that a purely technical project should
> not force politics down users' throats. Stifling discussion you don't
> particularly like is something you've been known to do.
>
> OP's tone was fine in the first email. Being impatient, he made the mistake of
> creating a second mailing list thread with a bombastic title in all caps. We
> can all see he was in the wrong for that, but it doesn't take away from the
> fact that a concerning number of packages - ranging from mostly unimportant to
> critical - are not being maintained. There is a lack of communication from the
> project to its users about this right now. More transparency on things like
> "who's maintaining the toolchain now" would go a long way.

First of all: Trans rights are not politics. It's about human rights.
For that I got death threats a couple of times and some alt-rights claiming I'll
be hanged.  I assure you it was a "fun" month.

You are also completely ignoring the fact that there where literally 20 threads
about this being created and everything was stuffed into one for the sake of not
spreading the discussion.

It's called moderation.


And for rest of it:

This was the thread that was moderated:
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/qkby7s/plea_either_add_more_trusted_users_or_offload/

There had been a similar thread not even 7 days prior which has had a good
discussion. There is no need for these threads every week thus it's marked as
duplicate.

Then they created 3 new threads which got as much traction as you'd expect on
this topic across several subreddits.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Legendary-Pokemon

Then I guess they posted this on 4chan because they love stirring up shit like
this. This isn't about helping anyone. This is nothing but FUD and being
self-righteous. Expecting overworked maintainers to do more while not lifting
a finger and pointing at problems in an unconstructive manner.

Again, we can discuss overarching problems like the toolchain. However the
*number* of *flagged packages* is not an issue in of it self.

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Morten Linderud
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