[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

Christopher W. vneon95 at protonmail.com
Wed Nov 3 17:41:29 UTC 2021


On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 5:37 AM, Morten Linderud <foxboron at archlinux.org> wrote:
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> First of all: Trans rights are not politics. It's about human rights.

Do you see the fallacy here? You've taken a controversial opinion, assumed it as fact, and framed the rest of the self-justification around that.

"Transgender" people do not exist, because one cannot change his or her gender. No amount of surgery or cosplaying changes this biological fact. Those who participate in transgenderism need help, and coddling to their delusions does not help them. The suicide rate has only gone up over time in every statistic I've seen. Clearly there's something else wrong; not bigotry or hatred or whatever else. More times than not, they are very closed off to anyone else with a differing worldview. Even within the echo chambers that are free of any criticism, they're still offing themselves at an alarming rate.

Moreover, rights are given to people by whom? The state. I see misuse of "human rights" very often in these types of discussions. No one is stopping anyone from doing their own thing in the privacy of their own home, so which rights are the so-called trans people being denied? The ability to lie about who they are on government-issued ID forms?

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1455744911316332546

> You are also completely ignoring the fact that there where literally 20 threads
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> about this being created and everything was stuffed into one for the sake of not
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> spreading the discussion.
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> It's called moderation.

Merging threads into one or stopping an influx of new threads is fine, but shouldn't users be able to find The Thread to discuss it? The one you linked is from 11 days ago. With all the influx of broken wifi threads every single day, how long do you think that'll be on the front page? One day, if that? (I would propose all support threads go somewhere else, but that's just me.)

> Then I guess they posted this on 4chan because they love stirring up shit like
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> this. This isn't about helping anyone. This is nothing but FUD and being
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> self-righteous. Expecting overworked maintainers to do more while not lifting
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> a finger and pointing at problems in an unconstructive manner.

Some people may like to stir up trouble, but are the issues still valid? Are there still almost 1000 outdated packages? Is the core toolchain not being taken care of? It's very easy to dismiss a point because of how it's presented, I get it, but the original thread from Billy *did* ask how users can realistically help. Being unable to submit diffs leaves us with no other option than maintaining our own local trees and making threads like this in the hope that someone with commit access will descend from above to help the community.


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