[arch-ports] pacbuild status and design
Alexander Baldeck
aba at disipos.de
Wed Aug 31 17:58:24 EDT 2005
Jason Chu wrote:
>Now the fun part: problems. I started pacbuild for i586. It worked really
>well, because packages are very rarely modified from i686 to i586. There
>was no real need for a cvsup tree and whatnot.
>
>
I hear you! Cvsup it a overhead only, if you x86 guys had'nt set a
password for eradonly anonymous
not even bypassing a password prompt would have been necessary. ;-)
Not to speak of the fact that Emz3 only runs on a platform where there
is already a bootstrapped
Emz3 compiler, which I haven't found for PPC yet.
If it were possible I'd like to see everyone move away from it and use
plain CVS or Subversion at best.
>I also designed cherry to do too much. I should probably make another one
>or two daemons in there. One, at least, to scan the repos and queue
>packages. That way cherry can just worry about managing all the remote
>builds. The other daemon would be for putting the packages back into the
>repos. The only reason I would develop this seperately is then we could
>use it for i686 as well.
>
>The way pacbuild was designed originally, it needed the
>single-PKGBUILD-for-all-architectures method. It depended on all PKGBUILDs
>working for all architectures and tried to build them for all architectures
>without those architecture developers even having looked at an update.
>This way architecture developers become more of a manager than an active
>maintainer.
>
>
I cannot agree more, all of the maintainers should always try to keep
the PKGBUILDs exactly the same
wherevere possible. Debian does it by the lowest deminor I think,
stripping features off the configure until
it works everywhere. Archlinux users might not agree with that, so do
I. So smaller if[ $CARCH ] sections
are totally ok.
Unless some really obscure platforms such as ARM32, m68K or even SH-*
are planned we won't have a
problem. And even then, we could still have like a Archembedded or whatever.
>The problem here is that each architecture's version of a package (if the
>newer version isn't in the ppc repo, for example) isn't accessible in abs.
>To do the abs thing for each individual architecture, we need to tag them
>at the very least (have seperate repos at the most). Tagging them pretty
>much means they'd need someone looking at them. It's possible that the
>build script could tag all the ones that were verified, but developers
>would still need to fix problems that showed up and tag those.
>
>
Do you mean for instance something like this?
2 kinds of tags in CVS for the latest stable:
CURRENT-I686
CURRENT-PPC
Then I do not see a problem with the fact that a new PKGBUILD might not
yet be available for all platforms
as soon as one platform's maintainer updated it. I think reviewing and
kind of signing the package for other
architectures is a must, not a problem in itself.
If a user want's stuff that has not necessarily been tested or even
been uploaded to be tested, he checks out the
HEAD or whatever which always works for getting *all* the latest
PKGBULDs, unlike TESTING-I686 on ppc f.e.
- kth5
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