From olivasj at ecs.csus.edu Fri Nov 4 17:46:00 2005 From: olivasj at ecs.csus.edu (olivasj at ecs.csus.edu) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:46:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [arch-ports] Arch-PPC help Message-ID: <32899.192.55.52.10.1131144360.squirrel@gaia.ecs.csus.edu> Hello, I've been using Arch for a few years now, but I bought an old iMac 400mhz to play with, and I wanted to put Arch on it to make it useful. I've been to the Arch-PPC website, but it looks like the boot/install cds in the download section are old and broken. Also, the documentation seems a bit outdated. Is there anywhere else I should be looking, and also, how soon is the 0.1 release? Any assistance is appreciated! -Joe From aba at disipos.de Fri Nov 4 18:33:44 2005 From: aba at disipos.de (Alexander Baldeck) Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:33:44 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] Arch-PPC help In-Reply-To: <32899.192.55.52.10.1131144360.squirrel@gaia.ecs.csus.edu> References: <32899.192.55.52.10.1131144360.squirrel@gaia.ecs.csus.edu> Message-ID: <436BEFD8.2080802@disipos.de> olivasj at ecs.csus.edu wrote: >Hello, > >I've been using Arch for a few years now, but I bought an old iMac 400mhz >to play with, and I wanted to put Arch on it to make it useful. > >I've been to the Arch-PPC website, but it looks like the boot/install cds >in the download section are old and broken. Also, the documentation seems >a bit outdated. Is there anywhere else I should be looking, and also, how >soon is the 0.1 release? > >Any assistance is appreciated! > >-Joe > > > Hey Joe, I hate to admit that there is nothing more than the website and what's hosted via HTTP (see link in downloads section). The last iso in combination with quickinst can even though be used to install Archlinux for PPC with only minro hassles. Most of them you would have to go through anyway more or less. ;) If you're up to it hit our IRC channel on freenode and when I'm there I will happily help you out of course. Cheers! Alex /- kth5 From benoitc at archlinuxfr.org Mon Nov 7 20:51:51 2005 From: benoitc at archlinuxfr.org (Benoit Chesneau) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 02:51:51 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] change cflags in ppc ports ? Message-ID: Dunno if it works for g3 but it seems ok. Why not changing default cflags for : -O2 -mtune=powerpc -pipe It woould be more optimized for g4. What do you think about it ? - Beno?t From sm at netsys.am Wed Nov 9 10:15:40 2005 From: sm at netsys.am (Sergey Manucharyan) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:15:40 +0400 (AMT) Subject: [arch-ports] 64-bit performance aproach Message-ID: <20504.195.250.78.180.1131549340.squirrel@www.netsys.am> Hi folks, I enjoy using the "regular" Archlinux for 2 years on 3 machines. I'd like to have the x86_64 flavor on my eMachines with Athlon64 CPU, and I've tried a couple of other x86_64 linux distributions on it with no performance improvement. Just recompiling applications for x86_64 architecture doesn't help - some things become even slower, for example, video encoding. Let's see what AMD suggests: "ACML (AMD Core Math Library) is ... a 64-bit library that is designed to fully exploit the large memory space and improved performance offered by the latest AMD64 architectures. ACML is supported on both Linux and Microsoft Windows operating systems." http://www.developwithamd.com/acml.aspx What do think about this? Are there benchamrks available for Arch64 compared to 686 Archlinux? Cheers, S. -------------------------------------- sent through sqMail for Xoops (http://www.guanxiCRM.com) From arnaud.fortier at free.fr Wed Nov 9 16:19:49 2005 From: arnaud.fortier at free.fr (Arnaud Fortier) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:19:49 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] [Arch64] help with Oo2 / gimp2.2.9 Message-ID: <437267F5.2070607@free.fr> Hi, as I'm new to this list I don't know if this has been answered, anyway, following what's on arch wiki to get abs running ( mount arch32 and chroot in it ... ) I've built an openoffice2.0 package, but when I install it it says : ./unopkg: line 100: /opt/openoffice/program/javaldx: No such file or directory ./unopkg: line 136: /opt/openoffice/program/unopkg.bin: No such file or directory ./unopkg: line 136: /opt/openoffice/program/unopkg : Success But when I try to launch it it says : /usr/bin/soffice: line 152: /opt/openoffice/program/javaldx : No such file or directory /usr/bin/soffice: line 213: /opt/openoffice/program/pagin : No such file or directory /usr/bin/soffice: line 213: /opt/openoffice/program/soffice.bin : No such file or directory After searching on gentoo's forum and on google I found that this seems to be a java related problem. I have j2re / j2sdk installed ( in 64bits ) The $JAVA_HOME var is well set to /opt/java /opt/openoffice/program/soffice.bin exists !! End of problem with openoffice2 Now the gimp 2.2.9 here it's worse, I can't generate a package there's an error : GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory gtk / gtk-engines / gtk2 / gtkspell are installed ... Anyway, I manage to compile and install kde-i18n-fr. I have an Acer Laptop 1513Lmi ( Athlon64 3400+ / 512 MB / 60GB / 5700Go / nForce3 ) running : Archlinux 0.7.1 / Arch64 / Kubuntu 5.10(64) / Suse 10.1 alpha2(64) If I can help: I'm a php/mysql web developper, system administrator. Feel free to ask I'm also on irc chans #archlinuxfr / #arch64 ... callsign 'warnaud' :-) Thx for reply. From pansyg at gmx.at Tue Nov 15 17:08:26 2005 From: pansyg at gmx.at (Gernot Pansy) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:08:26 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] arch64 website Message-ID: <200511152308.26148.pansyg@gmx.at> hy, what happens to arch64.org website ? it's down for maintance since a few days. i want to setup arch64 on my laptop and help to improve. ciao gernot From syamajala at gamebox.net Tue Nov 15 17:58:22 2005 From: syamajala at gamebox.net (seshu yamajala) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:58:22 -0500 Subject: [arch-ports] arch64 website In-Reply-To: <200511152308.26148.pansyg@gmx.at> References: <200511152308.26148.pansyg@gmx.at> Message-ID: On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Gernot Pansy wrote: > hy, > > what happens to arch64.org website ? it's down for maintance since > a few days. > i want to setup arch64 on my laptop and help to improve. > > ciao > gernot > c14n experienced an hd failure. the packages are available at http:// arch64.org/packages still, but subversion is down. - syamajala From pansyg at gmx.at Wed Nov 23 03:54:14 2005 From: pansyg at gmx.at (Gernot Pansy) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:54:14 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] arch64 website In-Reply-To: References: <200511152308.26148.pansyg@gmx.at> Message-ID: <200511230954.14724.pansyg@gmx.at> hmm, is there a timeframe when arch64.org is up & running again ? there are no new packages and the packages under arch64.org/packages are still not the last ones prior the crash. On Tuesday 15 November 2005 23:58, seshu yamajala wrote: > On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Gernot Pansy wrote: > > hy, > > > > what happens to arch64.org website ? it's down for maintance since > > a few days. > > i want to setup arch64 on my laptop and help to improve. > > > > ciao > > gernot > > c14n experienced an hd failure. the packages are available at http:// > arch64.org/packages still, but subversion is down. > > - syamajala > > _______________________________________________ > arch-ports mailing list > arch-ports at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports From terakuma at imbris.net Mon Nov 28 12:12:14 2005 From: terakuma at imbris.net (Maluvia) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:12:14 -0800 Subject: [arch-ports] Arch64 suggestions Message-ID: <200511280912140240.0035B4E5@mail.imbris.net> Hi Seshu, Since the Arch64 site is currently down, I thought this might be a good opportunity to pop in a few suggestions regarding the Arch64 port, based on my own experiences with it. 1. It would be *very* helpful to some of us (like me) if you would make both a uniprocessor (UP) as well as an SMP version of the kernel available. Some uniprocessor boards like mine do not behave well with SMP kernels. Mine in particular has been very badly broken - unable to compile anything at all. (Cf. Bug 4851: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4851) Linus put a patch in the 2.6.14 kernel to deal with the problem, but I have to wait for someone to compile it and make it available -or- make a UP (no numa) version of the 2.6.13 kernel that I can try out. Perhaps I am the only one who has had this issue, but as the Arch64 port attracts more users, it may crop with other people as well. Minor suggestions: I think the binutils pkg needs to have the search path corrected to match gcc-4.0.2-2. (i.e. changed from "-unknown-linux-gnu" to "pc-linux-gnu") I don't know if this is causing any problems or not, but it makes sense that they be consistent. >From my experience the symlink in glibc is not helpful. I recently did a clean reinstall - installed glibc first, replaced the lib, usr/lib symlinks with regular lib, usr/lib directories, then installed everything else, and my system seems to be more stable. I think gcc and X are the only programs that use lib64, and a multilib OS will be using lib32 for 32bit libs anyway. (Minor nitpick - the ncurses pkg always installs with the permissions messed up, but I found this to be so with the 32bit Arch as well, so it's not an Arch64 issue, but it is annoying to have to go in and fix them all up by hand.) I realize the move to the new 2.6.14 kernel is going to be a big shift with the initrd, libtool slaying in progress, etc. Hope it all goes well, and thanks again for all your hard work on this port. If I can ever manage to get a system working well enough to compile something I will be happy to contribute packages to the project. Good luck with the next round. -Maluvia From buchuki at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 11:31:30 2005 From: buchuki at gmail.com (Dusty Phillips) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:31:30 -0700 Subject: [arch-ports] Who's working on Arch64 packages? Message-ID: <7ecb79cc0511290831l37015682j@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, Now that Arch64 site and svn are up and running again, are we ready to start packaging!? :-) I'm curious to know who's working on packages and who has accounts, etc. (If you don't have one, contact c14n for one. If you want your name on the web page, contact him or me. We're both pretty busy ATM, so please be patient). I think it might also be useful to discuss who's working on what. We don't have enough devs yet to assign specific people to specific packages like the Arch core team does, and each of us has different levels of experience (I, for example generally give up if I can't get it to compile within a few tries and a half-assed google search for 64 bit patches.....). We have two issues to address, maintaining existing packages and adding new ones. maintainig packages isn't a big deal, whoever gets to updating one first should be able to submit the svn and package before anybody else wastes too much time on it. I guess if you have trouble and are working on it it wouldn't hurt to let everybody know you're trying to solve it so they can work on other stuff. For building new packages, if there is one you are working on and having trouble with, it probably pays to let others know to reduce duplicate effort. Lets also start a list of what needs to be worked on. Perhaps this should be put in a wiki page so we can all maintain it: Packages needing updating: nontrivial: kernel26 initscripts trivial: haven't had time to look Packages needing contribution: (these are some I personally need before I consider Arch64 my primary system): OpenOffice 2 vlc jpilot I've tried the last two and got errors that I haven't had time to investigate. Is anybody working on oo? If not, I can try to do it, but I'm not sure my packaging skills are up to snuff. Any other ideas to help get rolling? Dusty From a.radke at arcor.de Wed Nov 30 14:30:06 2005 From: a.radke at arcor.de (Andreas Radke) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:30:06 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] Who's working on Arch64 packages? In-Reply-To: <7ecb79cc0511290831l37015682j@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ecb79cc0511290831l37015682j@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <438DFDBE.3080909@arcor.de> Dusty Phillips schrieb: >Hey all, > >Now that Arch64 site and svn are up and running again, are we ready to >start packaging!? :-) I'm curious to know who's working on packages >and who has accounts, etc. (If you don't have one, contact c14n for >one. If you want your name on the web page, contact him or me. We're >both pretty busy ATM, so please be patient). > > I?m new to arch64 but have experience with AUR and before that I?ve made rpm packages for MandrivaUser.de quiet a long time. So if you let me I?ll be with you. AndyRTR From mrgreen.linuxuser at virgin.net Wed Nov 30 16:42:17 2005 From: mrgreen.linuxuser at virgin.net (Mr Green) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:42:17 +0000 Subject: [arch-ports] Arch64 Message-ID: <438E1CB9.9020507@virgin.net> Hi, Any chance of having FAQ on Arch64 ? getting many requests from 64bit'ers .... Where is me svn password ? can some one mail me one so I can get building ;-) I have given up on the idea of a mirror for Arch64, I'll just host packages/pkgbuilds I have built in case anyone wants them (let you know when & where soon!!) Ok are we going to get a new kernel ?? initrd (why!!!) etc.. Is Arch64 going to tackle issues with libs 32/64 IA_64 x86_64 & so on .. ? or can we come up with our own solution ;-) May I suggest we use a name for Arch64 release , I know we are using Wombat atm but a 0.1 release let me know what you think Anyway glad to see www.arch64.org up at last (thanks to c14n!) Please anyone using a 64bit machine sing out we would love to hear from you (that includes Robot5x if your out there!) Mr Green Arch64 user From a.radke at arcor.de Wed Nov 30 16:59:52 2005 From: a.radke at arcor.de (Andreas Radke) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:59:52 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] Arch64 In-Reply-To: <438E1CB9.9020507@virgin.net> References: <438E1CB9.9020507@virgin.net> Message-ID: <438E20D8.7020305@arcor.de> Mr Green schrieb: >May I suggest we use a name for Arch64 release , I know we are using >Wombat atm but a 0.1 release let me know what you think > > > First of all you should define our goal! I see two ways: one is to follow archlinux 32bit as much as possible and the other is to built our own different distribution only using current arch 32bit with it?s pacman a basement. I would prefer the first way. Don?t see the need to change much from arch32. I like arch 32bit as it is. So I would try to keep the system quiet up to date following the 32bit archlinux. So I want to see a first ISO release 0.7.1 shortly after noodle comes out. AndyRTR From buchuki at gmail.com Wed Nov 30 22:33:26 2005 From: buchuki at gmail.com (Dusty Phillips) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:33:26 -0500 Subject: [arch-ports] Arch64 In-Reply-To: <438E20D8.7020305@arcor.de> References: <438E1CB9.9020507@virgin.net> <438E20D8.7020305@arcor.de> Message-ID: <7ecb79cc0511301933m520a182t@mail.gmail.com> I think we definately want to follow arch32. We aern't making a new distro here. Eventually the packages want to be included into the 64 bit tree in ArchLinux. Once some dev has a 64bit machine it will probably go more mainstream, I hope. Until then, I'd say our primary goal is to get it working for us. AFAIK, Seshu is the only one successfully running Arch64, but he's a bit of a genius that just kinds of fixes things as theey come up. Dusty On 30/11/05, Andreas Radke wrote: > Mr Green schrieb: > > >May I suggest we use a name for Arch64 release , I know we are using > >Wombat atm but a 0.1 release let me know what you think > > > > > > > First of all you should define our goal! > > I see two ways: one is to follow archlinux 32bit as much as possible and > the other is to > built our own different distribution only using current arch 32bit with > it?s pacman a basement. > > I would prefer the first way. Don?t see the need to change much from > arch32. I like arch 32bit as it is. > > So I would try to keep the system quiet up to date following the 32bit > archlinux. So I want to see > a first ISO release 0.7.1 shortly after noodle comes out. > > AndyRTR > > _______________________________________________ > arch-ports mailing list > arch-ports at archlinux.org > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports > From a.radke at arcor.de Wed Nov 30 23:19:55 2005 From: a.radke at arcor.de (Andreas Radke) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:19:55 +0100 Subject: [arch-ports] my first packages are done -what to do now? Message-ID: <438E79EB.80402@arcor.de> As promised I?ve finished a first testing version of a common IDE+SCSI kernel. I?ve built mkinitrd too. The kernel config is a mix of the recent one from arch32 testing kernel26 an our last IDE kernel26. Feel free to test it and maybe you can diff the config to your personal one that we can improve it. And I?ve built gpm + mc. 1. Ok. How do I get them into arch64 svn/repo? 2. What packages shell I update or fight to build next? AndyRTR From buchuki at gmail.com Wed Nov 30 23:25:18 2005 From: buchuki at gmail.com (Dusty Phillips) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:25:18 -0500 Subject: [arch-ports] my first packages are done -what to do now? In-Reply-To: <438E79EB.80402@arcor.de> References: <438E79EB.80402@arcor.de> Message-ID: <7ecb79cc0511302025s61d7a1a2l@mail.gmail.com> > 1. Ok. How do I get them into arch64 svn/repo? c14n at arch64.org He's extremely busy, but he's the only one with access. I assume he reads these threads, but if you pester him enough you'll probably get the sense of urgency across. Don't tell him I said that. :-D > 2. What packages shell I update or fight to build next? if you're up for it, I'm hoping for open office. The arch32 version uses a rpm, I think, which is REALLY BAD, IMHO, but then I haven't looked into how impossible it is to do it from source.... don't know if you can find a 64 bit RPM though. Maybe look at some gentoo ebuilds or something.... Dusty