[arch-ports] [ArchPPC] Help regarding the install procedure

Thu Jun 22 14:32:15 EDT 2006

Alexander Baldeck wrote:
> Tate Johnson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:15 -0400, James Turner wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 02:53:12PM -0400, James Turner wrote:
>>>>>>>> james at nullstudios.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> James Turner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm a new archlinux user and new to this mailing list, so
>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>> take it easy on me.  I am having a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>>>>>> archlinux
>>>>>>>>>>> installed on my 12in PowerBook 1.33 GHz.  I have followed the
>>>>>>>>>>> steps
>>>>>>>>>>> under "*Installation on newworld machines" numerous times with
>>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>>> success.  Most recently quickinst seems to stale for no reason
>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading packages.  The one time I managed to get archlinux
>>>>>>>>>>> completely installed the kernel would not boot.  If anyone has
>>>>>>>>>>> more up
>>>>>>>>>>> to date instructions or any ideas why the quickinst script
>>>>>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>>>>>>> stalling please help.  Once I get the base system installed I
>>>>>>>>>>> can always
>>>>>>>>>>> compile my own kernel.  I appreciate any help anyone might be
>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>> offer.*
>>>>>>>>>> Except for the devfs vs udev issues, the guide still fully
>>>>>>>>>> applies. It
>>>>>>>>>> may be that you run into problems if you use the sample
>>>>>>>>>> yaboot.conf.
>>>>>>>>>> Did you use ofpath to determine your "device" and "partition"
>>>>>>>>>> lines?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You may try the latest snapshot which is here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/iso/snapshots/
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-06-14_archppc.iso.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It still has a few flaws which need to be fixed:
>>>>>>>>>> * does not create device nodes for harddrives use instead:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  cd /dev
>>>>>>>>>>  mknod hda b 3 0
>>>>>>>>>>  mknod hda1 b 3 1
>>>>>>>>>>  mknod hda2 b 3 2
>>>>>>>>>>  mknod hda3 b 3 3
>>>>>>>>>>  mknod hdb  b 4 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a.s.o
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex, Thanks for your help.  I did manage to get ArchLinux
>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>> just fine last night.  I followed the above procedure.  I also
>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>> mknod nvram c 10 144, so yaboot would install correctly and I
>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>> run modprobe loop so the kernel would install correctly.  I can
>>>>>>>>> proudly
>>>>>>>>> say I am writing this from ArchLinux on my 12in PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glad to hear you were successful! :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just now I uploaded yet another snapshot:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/iso/snapshots/ 
>>>>>>>> 2006-06-16_archppc.iso.bz2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hardware detection should work fine plus /dev is now properly
>>>>>>>> filled. What's left is to modify the "graphical" setup script,
>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>> am in the middle of doing right now. So whenever you feel like it
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> the newer ones too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried the new iso with out much luck.  It detected all my  
>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>> correctly and populated /dev just fine.  My problem was trying  
>>>>>>> to run
>>>>>>> quickinst.  Since wget isn't installed I tried the version located
>>>>>>> in /arch.  For whatever reason it was unable to resolve
>>>>>>> ftp.archlinuxppc.org.  I double checked my /etc/resolv.conf and it
>>>>>>> had the correct nameservers listed.  I used dhcpd to configure my
>>>>>>> network device if that means anything.  I tried manually setting it
>>>>>>> but route is also not installed.  Anyone have any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latest iso should come with the default quickinst script as in
>>>>>> i686,
>>>>>> so it uses snarf instead of wget now. I will check what may have
>>>>>> produced the problem. Though I'll doubt the iso doesn't have the
>>>>>> required symbols in its libc, like it used to on some of the other
>>>>>> isos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>> After trying out the iso again, I am able to ping ip's outside my
>>>>> network just fine, but still nothing is resolving.  Let me know if
>>>>> there's anything I can run on my machine to better help you find the
>>>>> problem.
>>>> You're still running quickinst right? I'll put strace on the next disk
>>>> to debug it a little more. Can only be something in pacman or snarf.
>>>> Unfortunatley I won't have much time tonight as I have to prep an art
>>>> show. :)
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>> In hopes to better help you out with the debug, here is the 
>>> procedure  I am following with the new iso.
>>>
>>> dhcpd eth0
>>> mac-fdisk /dev/hda
>>> mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda4
>>> mkswap /dev/hda5
>>> mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt
>>> /arch/quickinst ftp /mnt ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/current/os/ppc
>>>
>>> Then these errors are outputted:
>>>
>>> mount: can't find / in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>>> Downloading pacman...
>>> ftp.archlinuxppc.org: Unknown server error
>>> error: Download failed
>>>
>>> And here is my /etc/resolv.conf
>>> nameserver 68.87.77.130
>>>
>>> Take your time, like I said I was able to get archlinux installed  
>>> with the previous iso and old walkthrough.  If you need any help 
>>> with  anything let me know.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I am also experiencing similar issues to James with my G4 iBook. I'm
>> using the latest ISO (2006-06-16) and following the steps from the
>> previous E-Mail. I'm unable to resolve any domain names, however, I can
>> still ping IP addresses. I had entered various different nameservers
>> in /etc/resolv.conf and it doesn't seem to have any effect.
>> At any rate, I tried to issue the following command (IP for the FTP
>> server)
>>
>> /arch/quickinst ftp /mnt ftp://83.246.120.33/current/os/ppc
>>
>> Initially this was successful, except that pacman is unable to sync it's
>> database. In addition, I also get complaints.
>>
>> Mount: can't find / in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd love to see Arch PPC on my
>> iBook.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tate
>>
>>
>
> Tate,
>
> thank for trying out the ISO. I was working on it a bit over the 
> weekend  and resolved some issues that will fix the problem. Since I'm 
> not home right now the upload has to wait a bit until tonight. Please 
> bear with me. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex
>

Hello again,

finally, I made it back home safely from the Fete de la Musique. My last 
two nights were really busy so that's why I delayed releasing the newest 
snapshot a bit. :)

Anyways, get it while it's hot:

ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/iso/snapshots/2006-06-22_archppc.iso.bz2

What's new?
 * DNS resolution problem fixed (missin libnss_dns-2.4.so on iso)
     quickinst method should work now
 * few fixes to the setup script, don't expect it to fully work yet though

With that said, I'd like to go for a walk now. :)

Cheers!

Alex