[arch-ports] going to start a new ArchLinux?

Noah Lorenzen noahlorenzen at gmail.com
Wed May 9 09:18:01 EDT 2007

So does this mean the end of Arch64 as we know it? :(

On 5/9/07, Alessandro Calorì <axelgenus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/5/9, Andreas Radke <a.radke at arcor.de>:
> > we from the x86_64 port are only 2 guys rebuilding and maintaining
> > ~2500 packages. we have not the power and possebility to change
> > anything important.
> I didn't imagine you were just two guys keeping up this work. How
> could you manage all that work (and in such a good way)?
> > 1) improve the infrastructure and increase the manpower of developers
> > and packagers for all supported dramatically. we are trying that for
> > over a year now without any noticable real success.
> That's a hard task to achieve because becoming a TU is really hard
> (Arch user from three months, keeping up packages on AUR for a long
> time...).
> > 2) dramatically lower the work(=less binary packages) for the devs to
> > give them time for making packages of a better quality. doubt came up
> > as Arch should remain a supported binary distribution in most parts.
> This would not respect the "Arch way" to be a bleeding edge distro...
> > 3) new goals for ArchLinux: accept to have not well tested packages
> > when we want to keep the update speed or accept a lower speed on update
> > to get new packages better tested.
> In this case the differences from the i686 distro would increase,
> making the development more "chaotic"...
> > 4) split the goals we have! let's have one more conservative stable
> > rolling rellease tree for higher quality and one on the bleading edge
> > front accepting it might break sometime.
> That's exactly what we have right now!
> The stable and extra repositories should contain only "stable"
> packages but in Arch the term "stable" assume a custom meaning:
> packages that compile, don't block and don't give major troubles using
> them. An example: GNOME and Esound daemon, considered "stable" either
> for i686 or x86-64, don't work togheter because ESD locks up
> gnome-panel during start-up (you need to manually restart the service
> to unlock it); in many other distros this is not considerable
> "stable".
> > there is only one working other distribution based on pacman out
> > claiming having a stable tree. I've talked to several devs and users
> > and they can imagine that a stable distribution by ArchLinux can become
> > a successor.
> I agree.
> > Everybody who wants to help out or has something to say may post
> > here or contact me on one of my instant messenger accounts you find in
> > the forum.
> I would like to help (again) either in Arch project or out of it. If
> you need, just tell me where and when! ;)
> > AndyRTR
> Bye, Alessandro.
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