From bassosimone at slacky.it  Wed Jun  4 08:00:59 2008
From: bassosimone at slacky.it (Simone Basso)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:00:59 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] Rhythmbox 0.11.2-2 should be recompiled
Message-ID: <484683FB.5070709@slacky.it>

Rhythmbox should be recompiled because it links old version of
libsuoup and libtotem-plparser:

   $ ldd `which rhythmbox`|grep 'not found'
           libsoup-2.2.so.8 => not found
           libtotem-plparser.so.7 => not found

These are the installed packages:

   libsoup 2.4.1-1
   totem-plparser 2.22.2-1
   rhythmbox 0.11.2-2

Bye
	Simone






From bassosimone at slacky.it  Wed Jun  4 08:01:07 2008
From: bassosimone at slacky.it (Simone Basso)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:01:07 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] bc -l segfaults
Message-ID: <48468403.7080004@slacky.it>

The bc command segfaults when evaluating the result of an
expression, iff invoked with -l command line switch, as
follows:

   $ bc -lq
   1.4 / 2
   Segmentation fault
   $ bc -q
   12/4
   3
   $

The installed package is:

   bc 1.06-4

Bye
	Simone





From kth5 at archlinuxppc.org  Thu Jun  5 06:59:17 2008
From: kth5 at archlinuxppc.org (Alexander Baldeck)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:59:17 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] bc -l segfaults
In-Reply-To: <48468403.7080004@slacky.it>
References: <48468403.7080004@slacky.it>
Message-ID: <4847C705.8070807@archlinuxppc.org>

Simone Basso wrote:
> The bc command segfaults when evaluating the result of an
> expression, iff invoked with -l command line switch, as
> follows:
> 
>    $ bc -lq
>    1.4 / 2
>    Segmentation fault
>    $ bc -q
>    12/4
>    3
>    $
> 
> The installed package is:
> 
>    bc 1.06-4
> 

Would be interesting which port you are talking about. :)

Cheers,

-G



From anders1 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 13:25:43 2008
From: anders1 at gmail.com (Anders Bergh)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:25:43 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] bc -l segfaults
In-Reply-To: <4847C705.8070807@archlinuxppc.org>
References: <48468403.7080004@slacky.it> <4847C705.8070807@archlinuxppc.org>
Message-ID: <976395530806051025x70325fecqaf10189f65902c69@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Alexander Baldeck
<kth5 at archlinuxppc.org> wrote:
> Simone Basso wrote:
>> The bc command segfaults when evaluating the result of an
>> expression, iff invoked with -l command line switch, as
>> follows:
>>
>>    $ bc -lq
>>    1.4 / 2
>>    Segmentation fault
>>    $ bc -q
>>    12/4
>>    3
>>    $
>>
>> The installed package is:
>>
>>    bc 1.06-4
>>
>
> Would be interesting which port you are talking about. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> -G
>
> _______________________________________________
> arch-ports mailing list
> arch-ports at archlinux.org
> http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports
>

Seems like he's talking about the ppc port, I went to check the
PKGBUILD and it had something like this:

  if [ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && CFLAGS="-O0"

I did the same but for ppc, and it doesn't crash now. I updated the
package and uploaded it.

Anders



From bassosimone at slacky.it  Mon Jun  9 04:46:18 2008
From: bassosimone at slacky.it (Simone Basso)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:46:18 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] bc -l segfaults
In-Reply-To: <976395530806051025x70325fecqaf10189f65902c69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48468403.7080004@slacky.it> <4847C705.8070807@archlinuxppc.org>
	<976395530806051025x70325fecqaf10189f65902c69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484CEDDA.3080901@slacky.it>

Anders Bergh wrote:
...
>> Would be interesting which port you are talking about. :)
...
> Seems like he's talking about the ppc port, I went to check the
> PKGBUILD and it had something like this:
> 
>   if [ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && CFLAGS="-O0"
> 
> I did the same but for ppc, and it doesn't crash now. I updated the
> package and uploaded it.

Yes, I was talking about PPC... I promise I'll add the port name in
future ;-).

Thanks for the fix!

	Simone





From darose at darose.net  Thu Jun 19 15:07:26 2008
From: darose at darose.net (David Rosenstrauch)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:07:26 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
Message-ID: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net>

Going to retire my old Arch server soon, and the new one (my current 
desktop) is a 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon 64).  So I'm leaning towards 
taking the plunge and installing Arch x86-64 on it.

Just wondering though if there's still any major packages that aren't 
available in 64bit that might make me want to rethink this decision. 
The only package I'm aware of that I use frequently and is not available 
in 64-bit is flashplugin.

1) Anyone aware of any other notable exceptions?
2) Is there any workaround to be able to use the 32-bit flashplugin with 
firefox?

TIA,

DR



From sjakub at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 15:34:40 2008
From: sjakub at gmail.com (Jakub Schmidtke)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:34:40 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
References: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net>
Message-ID: <g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>

David Rosenstrauch wrote:

> Just wondering though if there's still any major packages that aren't
> available in 64bit that might make me want to rethink this decision.
> The only package I'm aware of that I use frequently and is not available
> in 64-bit is flashplugin.

> 1) Anyone aware of any other notable exceptions?

Also official java plugin. There are some ways to get java in 64b, like gcj,
or icedtea packages though.

I also tried to get OSS4 running, but adding alsa emulation PLUS combination
of OSS4 and alsa emulation for 32 bit apps was too much mess ;)

> 2) Is there any workaround to be able to use the 32-bit flashplugin with
> firefox?

Yes, nspluginwrapper and nspluginwrapper-flash from AUR. I also got flash 10
beta running with nspluginwrapper without any problems.
There are some issues though, like heavy CPU usage sometimes.





From darose at darose.net  Thu Jun 19 15:51:33 2008
From: darose at darose.net (David Rosenstrauch)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:51:33 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
In-Reply-To: <g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net> <g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <485AB8C5.1050601@darose.net>

Thanks much for the quick response, Jakub.

Jakub Schmidtke wrote:
> David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering though if there's still any major packages that aren't
>> available in 64bit that might make me want to rethink this decision.
>> The only package I'm aware of that I use frequently and is not available
>> in 64-bit is flashplugin.
> 
>> 1) Anyone aware of any other notable exceptions?
> 
> Also official java plugin. There are some ways to get java in 64b, like gcj,
> or icedtea packages though.


?  I don't understand.  Both the jre and jdk packages are available in 
64-bit.  Are you saying that they work, but that the browser plugin that 
comes with them does not?  That'd be annoying for me, but not 
catastrophic.  Any workaround that you know of?


> I also tried to get OSS4 running, but adding alsa emulation PLUS combination
> of OSS4 and alsa emulation for 32 bit apps was too much mess ;)


Never even heard of oss4, so no issue for me.


>> 2) Is there any workaround to be able to use the 32-bit flashplugin with
>> firefox?
> 
> Yes, nspluginwrapper and nspluginwrapper-flash from AUR. I also got flash 10
> beta running with nspluginwrapper without any problems.
> There are some issues though, like heavy CPU usage sometimes.

Hmmm ... this might not be such a big issue then.  I don't use flash 
that often (especially on my server box; I only really use it as a 
desktop occasionally) so as long as it *mostly* works, I should be OK.


Is that really the only major outstanding issues?  If so, I should be in 
good shape.

Thanks,

DR



From sjakub at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 17:53:52 2008
From: sjakub at gmail.com (Jakub Schmidtke)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:52 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
References: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net> <g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<485AB8C5.1050601@darose.net>
Message-ID: <g3ekhg$s5t$1@ger.gmane.org>

David Rosenstrauch wrote:

> ?  I don't understand.  Both the jre and jdk packages are available in
> 64-bit.  Are you saying that they work, but that the browser plugin that
> comes with them does not?  That'd be annoying for me, but not
> catastrophic.  Any workaround that you know of?

64bit JRE/JDK doesn't include browser plugin at all.
This is 5 year old bug/feature request now:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695

The workaround is not to use official Sun's JRE/JDK :)

> Hmmm ... this might not be such a big issue then.  I don't use flash
> that often (especially on my server box; I only really use it as a
> desktop occasionally) so as long as it *mostly* works, I should be OK.

It works fine.

> Is that really the only major outstanding issues?  If so, I should be in
> good shape.

I haven't run into anything else (or I don't remember) :)





From darose at darose.net  Thu Jun 19 18:19:18 2008
From: darose at darose.net (David Rosenstrauch)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:19:18 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
In-Reply-To: <g3ekhg$s5t$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net>
	<g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>	<485AB8C5.1050601@darose.net>
	<g3ekhg$s5t$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <485ADB66.6050607@darose.net>

Jakub Schmidtke wrote:
> David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> 
>> ?  I don't understand.  Both the jre and jdk packages are available in
>> 64-bit.  Are you saying that they work, but that the browser plugin that
>> comes with them does not?  That'd be annoying for me, but not
>> catastrophic.  Any workaround that you know of?
> 
> 64bit JRE/JDK doesn't include browser plugin at all.
> This is 5 year old bug/feature request now:
> http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695
> 
> The workaround is not to use official Sun's JRE/JDK :)

Just wondering:  is there any way to also install the 32-bit jre/jdk 
(and firefox) and use those when this functionality is needed?

Thanks,

DR



From sjakub at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 19:08:55 2008
From: sjakub at gmail.com (Jakub Schmidtke)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:08:55 -0400
Subject: [arch-ports] Any major non-64-bit s/w?
References: <485AAE6E.1020409@darose.net>
	<g3ecch$ft$1@ger.gmane.org>	<485AB8C5.1050601@darose.net>
	<g3ekhg$s5t$1@ger.gmane.org> <485ADB66.6050607@darose.net>
Message-ID: <g3eou7$90v$1@ger.gmane.org>

David Rosenstrauch wrote:

> Just wondering:  is there any way to also install the 32-bit jre/jdk
> (and firefox) and use those when this functionality is needed?

It is possible. For example you could install one of swiftfox packages,
for example. Unfortunately 32 bit JDK/JRE packages conflict with 64bit, so
you can't have both. With some manual tweaking it should be possible
though :)





From sdubois92 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 03:25:04 2008
From: sdubois92 at gmail.com (Steven DuBois)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:25:04 -0700
Subject: [arch-ports] G5?
Message-ID: <20080623072504.GB26710@scorpina>

I installed Arch on my x86 Desktop and my macbook and i love it. I attempted to install Debian on 
my G5 PowerMac but had no luck (yaboot problems). What I would like to know is how well does Arch 
work on a G5, does anyone here use it on a regular basis, and what are the challenges to 
installing it. Eventually, I would like to stop using OS X.



From mianka at skynet.be  Sat Jun 28 06:16:38 2008
From: mianka at skynet.be (mc)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:16:38 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] G5?
In-Reply-To: <20080623072504.GB26710@scorpina>
References: <20080623072504.GB26710@scorpina>
Message-ID: <200806281216.38643.mianka@skynet.be>

Op Monday 23 June 2008 09:25:04 schreef Steven DuBois:
> I installed Arch on my x86 Desktop and my macbook and i love it. I
> attempted to install Debian on my G5 PowerMac but had no luck (yaboot
> problems). What I would like to know is how well does Arch work on a G5,
> does anyone here use it on a regular basis, and what are the challenges to
> installing it. Eventually, I would like to stop using OS X.
>
> _______________________________________________
> arch-ports mailing list
> arch-ports at archlinux.org
> http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports

Arch PPC is 32 bit only, so it does NOT work on a G5.I have Debian running on 
an Imac G5 and it installed without the slightest problem (it is a Debian 
only machine).
There have been more posts, with possible solutions, on this topic so a search 
for G5 or Apple 64 bit in the forum could help. 



From kth5 at archlinuxppc.org  Mon Jun 30 07:12:26 2008
From: kth5 at archlinuxppc.org (Alexander Baldeck)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:12:26 +0200
Subject: [arch-ports] G5?
In-Reply-To: <200806281216.38643.mianka@skynet.be>
References: <20080623072504.GB26710@scorpina>
	<200806281216.38643.mianka@skynet.be>
Message-ID: <4868BF9A.2050006@archlinuxppc.org>

mc wrote:
> Op Monday 23 June 2008 09:25:04 schreef Steven DuBois:
>> I installed Arch on my x86 Desktop and my macbook and i love it. I
>> attempted to install Debian on my G5 PowerMac but had no luck (yaboot
>> problems). What I would like to know is how well does Arch work on a G5,
>> does anyone here use it on a regular basis, and what are the challenges to
>> installing it. Eventually, I would like to stop using OS X.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> arch-ports mailing list
>> arch-ports at archlinux.org
>> http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports
> 
> Arch PPC is 32 bit only, so it does NOT work on a G5.I have Debian running on 
> an Imac G5 and it installed without the slightest problem (it is a Debian 
> only machine).
> There have been more posts, with possible solutions, on this topic so a search 
> for G5 or Apple 64 bit in the forum could help. 

Actually it does, it most probably would require to build a 64bit kernel 
with 32bit emulation enabled. I have no idea how yaboot would fail on a 
G5 as I don't have any.

I can say this much though, archppc works just fine on my ps3 with a 
powerpc64 kernel, although I wouldn't recommend running it if you expect 
performance.

Cheers,

Alex



From sdubois92 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 02:23:58 2008
From: sdubois92 at gmail.com (Steven DuBois)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:23:58 -0700
Subject: [arch-ports] G5?
In-Reply-To: <4868BF9A.2050006@archlinuxppc.org>
References: <20080623072504.GB26710@scorpina>
	<200806281216.38643.mianka@skynet.be>
	<4868BF9A.2050006@archlinuxppc.org>
Message-ID: <20080626062358.GA14383@scorpina>

How would I go about compiling my own kernel on a PPC?

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:12:26PM +0200, Alexander Baldeck wrote:
> mc wrote:
> > Op Monday 23 June 2008 09:25:04 schreef Steven DuBois:
> >> I installed Arch on my x86 Desktop and my macbook and i love it. I
> >> attempted to install Debian on my G5 PowerMac but had no luck (yaboot
> >> problems). What I would like to know is how well does Arch work on a G5,
> >> does anyone here use it on a regular basis, and what are the challenges to
> >> installing it. Eventually, I would like to stop using OS X.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> arch-ports mailing list
> >> arch-ports at archlinux.org
> >> http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports
> > 
> > Arch PPC is 32 bit only, so it does NOT work on a G5.I have Debian running on 
> > an Imac G5 and it installed without the slightest problem (it is a Debian 
> > only machine).
> > There have been more posts, with possible solutions, on this topic so a search 
> > for G5 or Apple 64 bit in the forum could help. 
> 
> Actually it does, it most probably would require to build a 64bit kernel 
> with 32bit emulation enabled. I have no idea how yaboot would fail on a 
> G5 as I don't have any.
> 
> I can say this much though, archppc works just fine on my ps3 with a 
> powerpc64 kernel, although I wouldn't recommend running it if you expect 
> performance.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alex
> 
> _______________________________________________
> arch-ports mailing list
> arch-ports at archlinux.org
> http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports