[arch-projects] [INITSCRIPTS][PATCH 4/4] rc.d: list [started|stopped|auto|noauto|daemon]

Lukas Fleischer archlinux at cryptocrack.de
Tue Aug 23 07:00:44 EDT 2011


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:57:50PM +0200, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:44:08PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Lukas Fleischer
> > <archlinux at cryptocrack.de> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:05:56AM +0200, Sebastien Luttringer wrote:
> > >>  e.g: $name list
> > >> -     $name list started
> > >> -     $name help
> > >> +     $name list sshd gpm
> > >> +     $name list started #all started daemons
> > >> +     $name list /started #daemon nammed started
> > >
> > > Eeeeew. Don't do that.. Please! Three suggestions:
> > >
> > > * Just be okay with "started" being ambiguous. There probably won't be
> > >  any daemon called {started,stopped,auto,noauto} in the next 100 years.
> > >  This is all about doing it "right". If Tom and you are fine with
> > >  ambiguity, keep the way you did it in the first submission.
> > 
> > Ambiguity is not ok.
> > 
> > > * Do what I suggested in my first reply to the first version of this
> > >  patch and introduce a separate keyword.
> > 
> > That seems perfectly reasonable.
> > 
> > > * Use some separator like "--" to specify that there won't be any
> > >  further commands. `rc.d list started` will list all started daemons.
> > >  `rc.d list -- started auto` will list daemons called "started" and
> > >  "auto".
> > 
> > This was my first thought as well, though I think a separate keyword
> > would be nicer.
> > 
> > > ... but for the sake of god, please don't use "/" as some weird kind of
> > > escape character.
> > 
> > Yeah, that is a bit too non-standard.
> > 
> > I think my preferred solution would be to prefix all keywords with
> > "--". This would also allow you to use keywords in other actions
> > without weirdness ("rc.d start --stopped" would be nice, but "rc.d
> > start daemons sshd"/"rc.d start -- sshd" would be horrible).
> 
> Agreed. I thought of GNU-style long options before but didn't propose
> them since you were using a completely different syntax here.
> Introducing them sounds like the best idea.
> 
> > 
> > I suggest the grammar to be something along the lines of:
> > 
> > $name list [--started|--stopped|--auto|--noauto|<daemon>...<daemon>]
> 
> Maybe `rc.d list [--started|--stopped|--auto|--noauto] <daemon>...`,

`rc.d list [--started|--stopped|--auto|--noauto] [<daemon>...]`, of
course. Skipping the optional list of daemons should just list all
daemons that are matched by the "--started"/"--stopped"/... filters.


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