[arch-projects] [initscripts][RFC] deprecating TIMEZONE from rc.conf

[Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi]

--- El lun 16-may-11, Ionut Biru <ibiru at archlinux.org> escribió:

> De: Ionut Biru <ibiru at archlinux.org>
> Asunto: Re: [arch-projects] [initscripts][RFC] deprecating TIMEZONE from rc.conf
> Para: 
> Cc: "Arch Linux projects development discussion" <arch-projects at archlinux.org>, "Public mailing list for Arch Linux development" <arch-dev-public at archlinux.org>
> Fecha: lunes, 16 de mayo de 2011, 16:21
> On 05/16/2011 09:28 PM, Tom Gundersen
> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> 
> hi,
> i'm forwarding this on our arch-dev-public  ml for
> higher audience
> 
> > I think the TIMEZONE variable in rc.conf is
> unnecessary and it causes
> > some problems with other (especially GUI) tools. I'd
> like to hear what
> > you think about deprecating it. We will still keep the
> support for it
> > in initscripts, but we will suggest (in the standard
> rc.conf) to not
> > set it. It will then be up to the maintainer of our
> installer(s) and
> > documentation to adopt (or not) this suggestion.
> >
> 
> i found that deprecating this option will make the set up a
> bit more 
> complicated and i don't really want to copy/symlink or run
> tzselect 
> manually.
> 
> > I cc'ed the GNOME/KDE/XFCE maintainers as I would be
> interested to
> > hear if their timezone tools work well with rc.conf (I
> think not, but
> > I might have missed something). I also cc'ed aif and
> archboot
> > maintainers. Please forward if you know of anyone who
> maintains
> > relevant packages that I left out.
> >
> 
> gnome is perfectly capable to do this, with or without
> asking an 
> administrator password. For the later we need some
> adjustment to polkit 
> rules.
> 
> we shouldn't focus only on gnome/kde/xfce since they are
> fully featured 
>   desktop environments and have tools for setting the
> date/time/.
> 
> What about minimal setups, they don't have any tools like
> that and they 
> need to do it manually and is an additional step that is
> not needed in 
> my opinion.
> 

With timezone I have a more strong points:

1) System should use UTC.
2) Daemons should use UTC (logger, cron, ...)
3) TZ should be set per user not system-wide.