# [arch-releng] Arch iso packages; clonezilla?

Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz386 at yahoo.com.ar
Fri Jan 3 20:01:53 EST 2014

On 11/24/2013 05:55 PM, Jonathan Steel wrote:
> On Sat 23 Nov 2013 at 18:41, Dave Reisner wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 08:45:02AM +0000, Jonathan Steel wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose including clonezilla [1][2] in the installation
>>> media. It provides an ncurses menu for backing up and restoring
>>> partitions/disks using partclone, which is already included (I maintain
>>> both).
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that our ISO is already way too big. Adding a tool
>> which doesn't provide any functionality we don't already have seems like
>> a waste.
>
> It, along with drbl (dependency) would bring extra functionality, I
> belittled it calling it just a "menu"; it is more than that. I would not
> suggest this would it not just make a few MB difference. I think of the iso
> as a recovery tool as well as installation media; maybe we need both or to
> decide on one. In terms of "installation media only" the inclusion of
> software would be obvious; "do you need this during installation?", but
> while it includes useful software for other purposes, I believe
> clonezilla/drbl would be a good addition.
>
>>> As well as being a small and useful tool, I have another motive for getting
>>>
>>> Clonezilla currently offer live media iso files of Debian and Ubuntu-based
>>> operating systems running clonezilla. By including clonezilla in our
>>> installation media they are happy to add it as an alternative version,
>>> offering an Arch-based iso that you can run clonezilla on.
>>
>> I don't understand why this is motivation.  What's the benefit to Arch?
>
> To make Clonezilla more convenient/more accessible; currently if an Arch
> user wants to use clonezilla, they will most likely need to use archiso to
> generate their own iso and boot that (partitions need to be unmounted), or
> use Clonezilla's Debian or Ubuntu versions. I see this benefiting Arch
> Clonezilla users, and potentially bringing Clonezilla users to Arch.
>

I will add this for next archiso, since there are no big objections.

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Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
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