[arch-releng] Systemd related issues with 2014.09.01 ISO image

Thomas Bächler thomas at archlinux.org
Mon Sep 1 14:00:56 EDT 2014

Am 01.09.2014 um 19:51 schrieb Dave Reisner:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 07:36:16PM +0200, Christian Hesse wrote:
>> Dave Reisner <d at falconindy.com> on Mon, 2014/09/01 13:22:
>>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 07:14:24PM +0200, Christian Hesse wrote:
>>>> Pierre Schmitz <pierre at archlinux.de> on Mon, 2014/09/01 19:01:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just build the new ISO image. But I noticed some strange things are 
>>>>> going on with the systemd services. It seems all available services are 
>>>>> enabled and get started. Of course some of them will then fail: 
>>>>> https://paste.archlinux.de/Blu/
>>>>> I did not look into it yet; cant tell when though.
>>>> This is a known issue with systemd 216-1:
>>>> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/41711
>>>> Though I doubt the fix from systemd 216-2 is a good idea for live
>>>> media... We want a new machine-id for every system, no?
>>> Not sure what you mean by this -- systemd has always generated a
>>> machine-id on first install, making live CDs all have the same machine
>>> ID. This isn't a problem. The newly installed system will always have a
>>> separate and unique machine-id of its own..
>> I thought this should be really unique... Are there any use cases where this
>> can make problems? I do boot several instances of the same ISO in one network.
> I don't think this would ever be a problem in normal usage of a live
> environment. However, it'd be pretty simple to randomize the UUID --
> generate one via method of your choosing (there's at least 5 methods
> available) as a late_hook().

Yes, IMO we should do that.

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