<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body >Hi all,<br><br>Here are some thoughts about mentorship, mostly taken from the discussion at the March, 2015 Arch Women meeting. There was to have been a small group meeting on IRC in March, but it was difficult to coordinate a time when everyone could be there. So it's happening here on the mailing list instead.<br><br><br> * Notes/ideas for the Arch Linux Women Mentorship Discussion * <br><br>People who expressed an interest in participating: meskarune, you, me, jy2wong, and alad. CalimeroTeknik, nisstyre, AndreeeCZ and yuvadm have put themselves on the list as willing to be mentors. They may want to come. And anyone else who wants to come.<br><br>Group will discuss and bring this to regular Arch Linux Women meeting in June. fsckd drafted some criteria/suggestions for the group to consider. Those are below. <br><br>The mentorship list now: https://archwomen.org/wiki/projects:mentorship:offers<br><br>Also, <br> Mentors, mentees, manatees http://im.skdat.com/data/gallery/21/manatee.jpg <br><br><br>=== General - clarify what we really mean by mentorship<br><br>Topics - Scope:<br> * what should be the scope of the topics allowed?<br> * Should they be limited to those usable for Arch?<br><br>Formality:<br> * How formal do we want this (program?) to be?<br><br>Commitment:<br> * what is the amount of time / level of commitment expected/required?<br> * For both mentors and mentees?<br><br>Topics - Ideas:<br> * IDEA: There are quite a few facets to arch, from bugtracking to packaging and documentation, so that's a good topic for mentorship<br> * IDEA: Allan indicated he might be willing to mentor someone about the toolchain. Needs more info<br><br>Process:<br> * How would this work in general?<br> * How do potential mentors communicate their areas of expertise?<br> * How do potential mentees communicate their area of interest?<br> * How do we connect the two?<br> * fsckd's thoughts and suggestions below<br><br><br>=== Privacy<br>"While I'm happy to mentor, I'm not sure I'm happy having my name up on a...err, shit magnet page. I really have no desire to have internet poo flung at me by random strangers who decide the arch women mentorship program is lulzy."<br><br>Privacy - General<br> General ideas/suggestions/considerations and blocks<br>- The list on the wiki now has the problem of zero privacy for mentors. The internet can be a scary place.<br> * How do we protect the privacy of mentors and mentees while keeping the process easy to use and accessible?<br> * Consider the specific attacks we're trying to defend against, and find possible solutions.<br><br>Privacy - Technical<br> Technical suggestions and ideas.<br> * Using the Arch Women Wiki - make use of dokuwiki's ACLs to create a special mentor group that can see the list of mentors<br> * People not in that group would be able to see the topics but not the names of the mentors. (names would be anonymized)<br> * Using the Arch Women Wiki - some other docuwiki feature<br> * Use something completely different<br><br><br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>~~~ fsckd's criteria/suggestions from the March General Arch Women meeting. I put them here because they are a good beginning for discussion. <br><br>General<br>- fsckd's suggestion on the general process:<br> * The process of connecting mentors with mentees should not be convoluted or tedious.<br><br>Privacy<br>- fsckd's suggestions on privacy:<br> * Mentors should retain their privacy. The list of mentors should be neither public nor anonymously accessible.<br> * Mentees should retain their privacy. There is no public list of mentees.<br> * People should easily be able to add themselves to the list of mentors, remove themselves from the list of mentors, and temporarily take a break from the mentorship program.<br> * Accessible to people not familiar with IRC.<br> * Skills should be publicly viewable even though list of mentors is not.<br> * <alad> so in short, a "private" mentor list, where people can easily add themselves to, and that can be queried by topic?<br><br></body></html>