[aur-general] amendment bylaws: voting & tur-user

Ronald van Haren pressh at gmail.com
Thu May 8 07:58:47 EDT 2008


On 5/8/08, Callan Barrett <wizzomafizzo at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Allan McRae <mcrae_allan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>  > Ronald van Haren wrote:
>  >
>  > > Hi TUs,
>  > >
>  > > As Xavier pointed out
>  > > (http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-May/007651.html) , we
>  > > still haven't decided if we want to use the new voting system. So it
>  > > is time to do decide.
>  > >
>  > > According to the bylaws we need to discuss & vote before we can change
>  > > things in the bylaws.
>  > >
>  > > I propose two changes:
>  > >
>  > > 1. change all appearances of tur-users to aur-general
>  > >
>  > > 2.  the fourth section of the standard voting procedure to (at least
>  > similar to)
>  > > #######################################
>  > > Following the discussion period, a voting period opens. Simple YES, NO
>  > > , or ABSTAIN votes are to be cast under the Trusted User section of
>  > > the AUR homepage by at least a quorum of active TUs.
>  > > ######################################
>  > >
>  > > The SVP for changing the bylaws is:
>  > > SVP( amend_bylaws, 5, 0.75, 7);
>  > >
>  > > This mail starts the 5 day discussion period. Please note that in the
>  > > discussion period you have to vote for both points ;)
>  > >
>  > > Ronald
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >  I am all for the first point.
>  >
>  >  For the second, going through the responses from the thread announcing the
>  > AUR voting system there were concerns about not being able to abstain
>  > (although I think you can according to the vote summary) and email
>  > notifications.  For email notifications, it is easy enough to mail the list
>  > (as ammended in point one) when a vote is added.  An automatic system could
>  > be worked out later.
>  >
>  >  As a query, can we see who has voted for a proposal.  We might start
>  > running into quorum issues if we can't track who has voted and give those
>  > who don't a boot (a bit pessimistic I know, but probably justified...)
>  >
>  >  Allan
>
>
> I'll clear some stuff up I guess, I haven't really been bothered with
>  doing anything about this since I quit being a TU. Email notifications
>  aren't in there but it's not hard to add, tell me exactly where you
>  need notification and I can patch it in but for now people can just as
>  easily email that a vote has started or ended or whatever for now
>  (there's no easy way to help those last two cases anyway). On votes,
>  that you've voted is recorded but your actual vote is not so it's..
>  semi-anonymous. The fact that the votes are anonymous was a big reason
>  I wrote this in the first place, in my opinion public votes are as
>  good as just skipping votes and assuming everyone said yes. I also
>  have a script somewhere that lists whether someone has voted or not in
>  the last few votes but it's not actually in the AUR at the moment,
>  worst case scenario that can be used.
>
>  --
>
> Callan Barrett
>
>
Maybe, apart from an announcement main send when a new vote has been
created, maybe some sort of summary can be send after the voting
period has ended with the results and the people that failed to vote?
(just thinking out loud..)




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