so CPAN use something like 0.90_1 to mean 0.90_rc1 however I know that pacman see's this as 0.90.1 (essentially not literally) making it greater than 0.90. would just packaging it as 0.90_rc1 make it appear as less than 0.90? I can't find any real docs on this -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com