[aur-general] Proposal to move sage-mathematics into [community].

Thomas Dziedzic gostrc at gmail.com
Mon Aug 16 12:43:36 EDT 2010

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Xyne <xyne at archlinux.ca> wrote:

> Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
> > If I have understood your correctly, you want sage to provide python and
> > all its other components as if they were vanilla?
> No...
> Peter Lewis wrote:
> > It may be that there are a few core components (however we define that)
> like
> > maxima or octave that can be "provided"...
> This is mostly what I had in mind. Even with modifications, some of the
> component packages such as maxima or octave should fulfill most
> dependencies of packages that require them and could thus be used
> instead of the vanilla packages by users who require Sage. Even if it
> only provides a few, it would still help offset the cost of installing
> the package.
> I wrote 'to have the package "provide" as many of its components as
> possible (if any)' *because* I doubt that most of them can be exposed.
> Loui Chang wrote:
> > It seems pretty ridiculous that they wouldn't have made provisions to
> > use a system python rather than a bundled one. I maintain brlcad which
> > bundles tcl/tk, boost, and a host of other libs but they have a proper
> > build system which can check for and use system libs. Some of the libs
> > are more obscure and probably should be bundled. I can imagine the same
> > situation would occur with sage-mathematics. I'm left wondering why sage
> > can't get their modifications incorporated upstream.
> >
> > I don't imagine using sage any time soon, but I can imagine users being
> > a little peeved if they required virtually two installations of python -
> > or any other major package.
> It *is* ridiculous. The upstream developers either think that "disk is
> cheap" and don't care, or they think that Sage is the be-all-end-all
> mathematics package and that no one would ever need any of the vanilla
> components.
> That's just the way it is though and users of Sage know this. Aside
> from incessantly nagging upstream, there is nothing that can be done
> about it, which is why we're left with working around the duplication.
> Regards,
> Xyne

If anyone has any other comments or pressing issues, please respond now. I
will wait another day before moving it into community.

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