[aur-general] Amendment

[Loui Chang]

On Sun 05 Dec 2010 14:40 -0500, Shacristo wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Xyne <xyne at archlinux.ca> wrote:
> > Shacristo wrote:
> >
> >> > Here's the script in-line. Sorry for spamming the list.
> >> >
> >> > #!/usr/bin/env python2
> >> > from sys import argv
> >> >
> >> > # Quorum (66%)
> >> > quorum = 0.66
> >> >
> >> > # Total active TUs, yes votes, no votes, abstain votes.
> >> > TUs, yes, no, abstain = [float(x) for x in argv[1:]]
> >> > # Total number of votes.
> >> > votes = yes + no + abstain
> >> >
> >> > # If an absolute majority has voted yes,
> >> > if yes / TUs > 0.50 \
> >> > # or quorum has been established with a simple majority
> >> > or (votes / TUs > quorum and yes / votes > 0.50):
> >> >  print "The motion has passed."
> >> >
> >> > else:
> >> >  print "The motion has failed."
> >>
> >> You need to multiply 0.66 x TUs for the actual quorum requirement and
> >> you're counting no and abstain votes exactly the same.  My
> >> understanding is that abstain votes are only used for establishing a
> >> quorum.  Otherwise there's no reason to have them.
> >
> > Um, "votes > TUs * quorum" is the same thing as "votes / TUs > quorum".
> >
> > There is no difference between voting "no" and "abstain" currently.
> > The simple majority is counted by dividing the number of "yes" votes
> > by the total number of users that have participated, including those
> > who "abstain".
> >
> > I agree that there should be a difference between "no" and "abstain", but I
> > didn't write the bylaws and I have proposed alternatives that would draw a
> > distinction before, although I don't remember what.
> 
> Ah, you are correct, I missed the division there.
> 
> I agree that a strict reading of the bylaws treats 'abstain' the same
> as 'no' despite people interpreting them to be different.  Perhaps the
> wording should be changed now while everybody is looking over the
> bylaws.

Well as far as I can interpret it the bylaws don't actually say what
abstain means, so it could mean anything: yes, no, or pineapple.
Nor does it define what a simple majority is uhhh.

Ambiguity abounds. The bylaws should be made clearer. If we read them
carefully I hope we're clever enough to understand their intention as
they are right now though.