[aur-general] Remove ardour3-svn

[Dieter Plaetinck]

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:08:03 +1000
Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org> wrote:

> On 21/12/10 15:53, Xyne wrote:
> > On 2010-12-21 12:14 +0800 (51:2)
> > Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 13:22 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
> >>> My view is that there is no need for informational post_install or
> >>> post_update messages (and I find those annoying in general...).
> >>> Especially given this obviously a svn snapshot for a branch that
> >>> has seen no release yet.  I work on the assumption that the users
> >>> of Arch are not stupid[*] and know what they are installing on
> >>> their systems. They would have gone out of their way not to just
> >>> install the ardour package from the repos for a reason.
> >>>
> >>> [*] well, lets just say I do to make this point...  :P
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>
> >> Well from the POV of ardour's developers, ardour3 isn't even alpha
> >> or pre-alpha yet, and this PKGBUILD just encourages those mythical
> >> 'stupid users' to try out something which isn't for general users
> >> yet.
> >>
> >> The problem here is that problems will be brought to them (the
> >> ardour devs) rather than to this list or the comments on the AUR
> >> package. If a post_install message alleviates that problem it's
> >> all good, I think.
> >>
> >
> > If a simple message is able to address the concerns expressed by
> > the upstream developer and encourage users to contribute to the
> > project then we should include it. It shows respect and costs
> > nothing.
> 
> How about a comment in the PKGBUILD then?  Everybody reads the
> PKGBUILD before blindly running makepkg, right...
> 
> Too many people ignore post_install/upgrade messages as it is because
> of all the "useless" information in them.  I think there usage should
> be limited to absolutely critical information.
> 
> Allan

many people ignore those messages?  that's silly. the solution for
preventing users ignoring reading warnings is not removing the warnings.
anyway, if you make it a warning - even if they ignore it - they will
*also* see it when they read the pkgbuild source.

PS: didn't you just say "I work on the assumption that the users of Arch 
are not stupid" ?

Dieter