[aur-general] Deletion Request

Stefan Husmann stefan-husmann at t-online.de
Sat May 29 00:37:45 EDT 2010

Am 29.05.2010 01:24, schrieb Jeff Horelick:
> On 27 May 2010 15:57, Stefan Husmann<stefan-husmann at t-online.de>  wrote:
>> Am 27.05.2010 01:34, schrieb Evangelos Foutras:
>>   [2] : http://atheme.net/
>>> Done. Thanks!
>> Hello,
>> I think this is a very strange attitude for an open source project.
>> I am fine with removing it.
>> Regards Stefan
> This is entirely my personal opinion, but it makes it a hassle if the
> package is the stable version (for example) and users being a bit stupid
> with wanting a feature in the testing/hg version, but being super-anal about
> using their distro's package.
> That's just an annoyance, but...Most distro packages of software put stuff
> where you'd expect it according to the FHS, but they all put it in slightly
> different places. I forget for this package, but on Arch, the atheme.conf
> might be in /etc/ whereas on Debian it might be in /etc/atheme/ and the
> atheme.db might be anywhere in /var/.
> With not packaging it, the Atheme developers can say: "OK, the DB is at
> ~/atheme/etc/atheme.db and the .conf is at ~/atheme/etc/atheme.db" and
> unless the user changed the prefix (which...Then they probably shouldn't be
> asking where the .conf and stuff is) , that'll always be correct.
> Also, and this is less of an issue with Arch because things are updated
> quickly and i was the package maintainer and i'm also an upstream atheme
> developer, but most IRC stuff is volatile. I've got a Debian Stable server
> and i'm using the old version of Cherokee and formerly Apache just fine, but
> i wouldn't recommend users to use Atheme 3.0.4 (the version currently in
> Debian Stable) because of many bugfixes and little support for quite new
> IRCd's.
> Sorry if this came off a bit ranty/incoherent (i'm a bit under the weather),
> but that's my stance and the official Atheme stance and i personally agree
> with it.


sorry, that does not convince me. With that argumentation we could declare
90 % of the software projects as not to be packaged.

Saying, "please do not package it", together with the reason on the homepage,
means to me the same as "please do not bother us, we are not interested in users".
This is rude.

Personally I do not, with very few exceptions (scripts I wrote myself, some
emacs-stuff), use unpackaged software installed in ~. I cannot recommend
users to do so. Therefore I am fine with removing Atheme from AUR.

Just My personal opinion.

Regards Stefan

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