[aur-general] TU Bylaws amendment proposal

[Lukáš Jirkovský]

On 1 September 2010 20:47, Thorsten Töpper <atsutane at freethoughts.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:09:38 +0100
> Peter Lewis <pete at muddygoat.org> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 01 September 2010 at 08:38 Xyne wrote:
>> > You have misunderstood my proposal. The phrase "active throughout
>> > both the discussion period and the voting period" is not the same
>> > as "active".
>>
>> On Wednesday 01 September 2010 at 18:37 Eric Bélanger wrote:
>> > If your intention is to allow new TUs to vote but not have the
>> > quorum affected if they don't, you should modify your amendment
>> > (feel free to rephrase):
>> >
>> > "If a TU is added to the group or declare himself as active during a
>> > discussion/voting period, then this TU is allowed to participate in
>> > the vote at his discretion.  He is only counted in the quorum
>> > calculation if he has voted."
>>
>> I think this is basically the right idea (and I'm also not a TU but)
>> I personally think it would get confusing if the quorum varies. In
>> the interests of simplicity, clarity and fairness, my view would be
>> that a quorum should be fixed for the lifetime of a vote, so that
>> everyone participating knows.
>>
>> This could be done either a) including the new TUs or b) excluding
>> them (though they would still be eligible to vote). I would argue for
>> (b), since this way new TUs missing a vote by days, hours or minutes
>> after their own election don't affect the quorum.
>>
>> Perhaps a simpler alternative would be to add to Xyne's original
>> wording (which is very clear):
>>
>> > Following the announcement, standard voting procedure commences
>> > with a discussion period of 5 days, a quorum of 66%, and a voting
>> > period of 7 days. The quorum is counted among TUs who are active
>> > throughout both the discussion period and the voting period.
>>
>> Adding:
>>
>> > This is only used to calculate quorum and does not prevent any TU
>> > from voting.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Pete.
>
> Another wording which I find easier to understand would be a
> modification of the new sentence introduced by Xyne from:
> "The quorum is counted among TUs who are active throughout both the
> discussion period and the voting period."
>
> to:
> "The quorum is counted among TUs who are active at the point of time
> the voting is started at the AUR but every TU is allowed to vote."
>

I like this one. Even when not beeing a native speaker I find it
perfectly clear.

Lukas