[aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

Seblu seblu at seblu.net
Fri Jan 21 13:04:37 EST 2011

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Ronald van Haren <pressh at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Seblu <seblu at seblu.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Ronald van Haren <c> wrote:
> Some pointers
> - cairo-xcb is broken and unmaintained by upstream
i see several commit from this january about xcb. Reading changelog,
the backend does not seem abandoned.

i see activity on ml:

i see patched on last release changelog:

> - cairo-xcb is known to cause X crashes and rendering issues
Crawling arch bugtracker is not really revelent of this.
I don't find many bugs around this issue (maybe not detected as corollary).
RedHat bug is not really accurate.

I also use cairo-xcb from aur everyday and i don't see issues.

> - crashes and redering issues will probably appear in other
> applications than awesome
Sure! This is to avoid.

> - people don't know that they are using something that is unsupported
> (at least by upstream)
Upstream speak about experimental feature, not unsupported (see README).
By our bleeding edge point of view, we enable a lot of experimental
feature (in particular in linux kernel).
Experimental "tag" is not always a synonym of unstable (or unsuported)
but more like really Bleeding edge.

> - it is generally a bad idea to support something which is encouraged
> not to by upstream
I agree. But i'm wondering why debian include it by default in next
release (squeeze)

I see in configure, they include --enable-xlib and --enable-xcb.
_Maybe_ we can enable the two to have the best of both worlds.
This need more investigation.

> So unless you want to fix all issues in cairo-xcb, it is probably not
> a good idea to support it. In case you will, upstream is also looking
> for a maintainer of the xcb backend if I'm not mistaken.
I don't see the job offer :)

> But then
> again, you may need to first fix all issues before you bring it in :-)
I see the point.
I would contact cairo debian maintainers about that. To have their
point of view.

Sébastien Luttringer

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