[aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws
Rashif Ray Rahman
schiv at archlinux.org
Fri Aug 2 15:52:47 EDT 2013
On 3 August 2013 02:40, Angel Velásquez <angvp at archlinux.org> wrote:
> Hi people,
> First of all, i'm writting this mail as an ex TU and user, not as a dev
> who want to push you how to proceed or follow the bylaws.
> Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used
> just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff
> like quorum and removal procedures, some TUs look to otherside when we
> mention this subject.
> So, what's the point of having a Bylaw if you will not follow it?, why
> don't modify it and remove that part that you don't want to be aware?,
> being a TU is not about just delivering packages and orphaning /
> splitting packages on the AUR, TUs must work as a group, and it used to
> be like that when I was part of the team (I still feel part of the team
> but seems that oficially I am not a TU, a corner case that is not well
> documented on the Bylaws btw).
> So, according to that, I don't want to say names (i did said those names
> on the irc channel when I found the quorum situation on the last SVP but
> as I've said nobody react .. bad bad bad, guys.. dissapointing I must
> say), but I still feel that TUs must do that, not a guy which is not
> completely a TU -yes, me-.
> Please check the last SVP and check who didn't voted, and some TU call
> the rest of the group for either following the Bylaws, or call for a
> modification of these Bylaws and allow these cases.
> In my opinion, (now as a dev) we don't want to control what you do,
> because we as a user and devs trust a group of people that have their
> own defined rules, but if the TUs won't start following these rules, is
> simply stupid to have these rules there.
> Please don't kill the messenger, this is nothing personal against anyone
> or the group, I really appreciate most of the people who contribute to
> the Arch Linux project and I am grateful as an user for that.
> Let this discussion begin.
There is simply no-one taking initiatives any more. I think the bylaws
are fine, but if anyone objects to any particular clause we are able
to motion for amendment. We are also able to motion for the removal of
Ionut once digged out repeated "offenders", sent some warnings, but
that's about the last of such things that I remember. We also had
removals that ended successfully. So, someone just needs to point out
those who have been MIA.
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