[aur-general] Unexpected aur package removal.

[Brock.Zheng]

OK, OK

    I don't think the way of interaction between you two is a smart one.
May be TU's attitude is too hard, I think.

    Why not calm down and wait for some time?
    I suggest you two to discuss this topic tommorrow.

    May be you will find how silly you were 24 hours  later.....

    Right?


On 2013-03-13 00:51:02, Yichao Yu wrote:
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:51:02 -0400
> From: Yichao Yu <yyc1992 at gmail.com>
> To: Daniel Wallace <danielwallace at gtmanfred.com>, Yichao Yu
>  <yyc1992 at gmail.com>, "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)"
>  <aur-general at archlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [aur-general] Unexpected aur package removal.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Daniel Wallace
> <danielwallace at gtmanfred.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:17:13AM -0400, Yichao Yu wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Daniel Wallace
> >> <danielwallace at gtmanfred.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:25:58PM -0400, Yichao Yu wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> A TU "gtmanfred" have just decided to remove one of my package just
> >> >> one minute after he commented on the package pointed out the missing
> >> >> package() in the PKGBUILD without any further explaination.
> >> >>
> >> >> The package is python-django-git[0], which I have uploaded 2-3 days
> >> >> ago[1] to replacing two old packages including one with 3 vote that I
> >> >> uploaded last Nov.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have already re-upload the package[0] since I don't think anything
> >> >> is wrong with the package (especially not for the package name, I can
> >> >> fix it if anything else with the package is wrong). And I just want to
> >> >> know if that was a delete by mistake or a missing package() somehow is
> >> >> enough reason to remove a package within ~1min after notifying the
> >> >> maintainer now?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yichao Yu
> >> >>
> >> >> [0] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-django-git/
> >> >> [1] https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2013-March/022494.html
> >> >
> >> > Please follow packageing guidelines, anything that touches $pkgdir
> >> > should be inside the package() function.
> >> >
> >> > repackaging without a package() function has been deprecated
> >> > https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2010-April/010620.html
> >> >
> >> > and PKGBUILDs without a package() function have been depricated
> >> > https://patchwork.archlinux.org/patch/515/
> >> > https://www.archlinux.org/todo/clean-up-pkgdir-usage/
> >>
> >> I agree, and I have already fixed it.
> >>
> >> BUT, that is NOT what I am asking!! What I am REALLY asking here is
> >> why did you simply remove the package!!
> >> You can leave a comment (which you did 1min before you go right to the
> >> incorrect last step), flag it out-of-date, send me a email, or even
> >> disown it and correct it yourself according to the AUR two-week policy
> >> if I refuse to update. Is it what you think a TU should do to remove
> >> (without waiting for the shortest reasonable response time or even
> >> attempting to improve) all non-standard/old PKGBUILD on AUR.
> >>
> >> It is fine if you have just removed it by accident (although I will
> >> probably suggest to move the remove button and the flag-out-of-date
> >> button farther away for TU if that's the case), but if you were doing
> >> that on purpose, what you did is totally non-constructive. This is
> >> definitely NOT what a TU should do. Let me remind you what a TU should
> >> do is "check PKGBUILDs for minor mistakes, suggest corrections and
> >> improvements"[1], I am not sure which of the three does "removing
> >> package right away" belong to.
> >>
> >> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#The_TU_and_.5Bunsupported.5D
> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Daniel Wallace
> >> > Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred)
> >> > Georgia Institute of Technology
> >
> > Also note that you didn't fix it until I replied to your inquiry about
> > why it was deleted.  And instead of taking my advice to fix it, you
> > decided it was correct and just uploaded it again.
> 
> No that's not true. I did uploaded it right away just because I keeped
> all the source package I am maintaining and just want to keep the
> useful and working package on AUR for anyone that may want it before
> spending another ~2-5 mins to fix and test it.
> 
> If you want to know about the detail, I upload the first PKGBUILD
> which is identical to the old one right after I received the mail
> notification arround 20-30min after the deletion. Then I uploaded the
> PKGBUILD that fixed the package() issue after testing it in about
> 5min. After sending out the email, I uploaded the third PKGBUILD which
> happened to be right after your first reply to add a "provides"
> version.
> 
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Wallace
> > Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred)
> > Georgia Institute of Technology

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