[aur-general] TU application: Daurnimator

[Daurnimator]

Sorry for delayed reply, I've been travelling.

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 14:44, Eli Schwartz via aur-general
<aur-general at archlinux.org> wrote:
> The luarocks github repository has references to CFLAGS, so it seems to
> support that already. It does *not* have references to LDFLAGS or
> CPPFLAGS, not sure what to think of that... it's possible to export
> CFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS $CFLAGS $LDFLAGS" before building I guess?

It does have LIBFLAG which I believe should be contain LDFLAGS.
See https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/issues/429

> > 3. We don't know why the argument on using pkg-config in LUA should be
> > dismissed. [3]
>
> This is relevant, I believe, given that daurnimator appears to be a
> member of both the lua and luarocks organizations on github, and
> presumably has some degree of influence.

Note that I am only a reviewer/maintainer for both orgs, I do not
control any decision making processes.
I can, of course, suggest things, but so can everyone else!

> And I do sort of think that pushing things like this to upstream
> attention is kind of important from a packaging perspective. If I were a
> lua user rather than an idle bystander who happened to notice something
> odd being discussed, I would definitely be aggressively advocating for
> this upstream.

Lua has a very diverse set of users, including those that
  - refuse to use anything more modern than C89
  - are game developers
  - use windows
  - are using lua on a microcontroller
  - refuse to be in the same room as autotools
  - say that libtool is the only way to package libraries
  - refuse to be in the same room as libtool
  - are super performance sensitive
Trying to solve packaging and ecosystem issues is very difficult in
such an environment.

By being a trusted user I hope that it adds substance behind some
upstream reform, where the response has sometimes been "we will only
change this if a majority of distros agree".

> > Considering the questions are relevant regarding the use of bare gcc
> > lines (!) in PKGBUILDs a candidate may want to add to [community], I'd
> > say it's especially important to answer them.
>
> It's especially important to answer them given that the candidate's
> application stated "the primary goal of improving Arch's Lua packages",
> but so far we have not been told what that means and can only guess
> based on what others have observed of his PKGBUILDs.
>
> Foxboron, you said your candidate reached out to some people people via
> email to discuss "the current state of our LUA packages where he wanted
> to help improve the situation". Was this discussed during that private
> email conversation?
>
> Daurnimator, can you elaborate on your plans?

I don't have a full answer for this yet! It's not as if I intend to go
in and change everything on the first day I'm a TU.
Problems need to be proposed, existing solutions need to be
investigated, and I'll try to come to agreement with other distro
maintainers, as well as other arch TUs.