hi http://frugalware.org/~vmiklos/patches/libpacman-proposed/wipe_out_pacman_version.diff as PACKAGE_VERSION is already defined, it's no good defining our own PACMAN_VERSION in pacman.c and #VERSION# in pacman.8.in and makepkg.8.in udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org