[pacman-dev] Pacman has been forked (WAS: Re: [PATCH] libalpm: new config option - maxtries)

Robert Howard howard.rob at gmail.com
Wed Dec 6 11:25:54 EST 2006

pacman-ng doesn't sound like a fair name. seems to imply that pacman is
depreciated. Just my $0.02.

On 12/6/06, VMiklos <vmiklos at frugalware.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:56:16PM -0600, Aaron Griffin <
> aaronmgriffin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The patch is no longer valid.  Please provide a valid patch.
> Sorry but I won't.
> Quoting the current state of http://wiki.frugalware.org/Pacman-ng:
> ,,Pacman-ng is a fork of the not-yet-released cvs version of the complete
> rewrite of pacman by Aurelien Foret (the old monolithic pacman is
> written by Judd Vinet).
> So it provides a library interface to create realy frontends (not just
> wrappers) to this great package management tool.
> This fork has the following goals:
> 1) It provides a stable API.
> 2) It has a stable release in every 2 months (at least).
> 3) We _are_ interested in contributors' patches.
> This is guaranteed as we already has a patch queue for almost a year
> with the same goals, just finally we lost our motivation to submit
> patches to the cvs.
> Pacman has been forked because Aaron Griffin, the current "maintainer"
> of pacman3:
> 1) requested to do so.
> 2) always says there will be a pre-release soon, but there isn't any for
>    more than half of the year.
> 3) likes cosmetics changes even with changing the API so developing
>    frontends are almost impossible.
> 4) regularly ignores contributors' patches, then after he did his own
>    changes, then requires _you_ to port your patch to the changed api,
>    so it really does not worth submitting patches to him.
> We plan to pull functional changes from the cvs regularly. Till the
> current destructive approach does not change, we do not plan to submit
> patches to him. The queue is too long already, he has some stuff
> already to merge. (Unfortunately probably he won't.)
> Of course this does not means that we hate the other contributors of
> pacman or Archlinux, we have a problem with the current "development"
> model of pacman-cvs. We are interested in any co-operation if the
> current approach changes.
> The current patch queue can be found at:
> http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/other/pacman/
> The next release will have the "pacman-ng" name instead of the "pacman"
> one, so that users won't be confused.
> If you are interested in developing pacman-ng, please subscribe to the
> frugalware-devel at frugalware.org mailing list.''
> udv / greetings,
> VMiklos
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